You're trying to say Massa wouldn't move over for Schumi if he was in the same position as Fisi & Alonso were? Its obvious that he would, just look at the amount of times Barrichello moved over for Schumi over the years (Austria 2002 being the most noticable, and then we were only mid-way through the championship!)Team orders, stealing a small distance on the line and cutting a chicane
Besides, who says it was team orders? Could quite easily be Fisi doing it of his own accord. How do we know Fisi didn't decide to do this and inform Alonso of it. At the end of the day the whole team would benifit from Fisi doing it. I read an interview with Nico Rosberg which said "I learnt a lot in my first few races, like at Sepang when I fought on the pit straight at the start with Mark [Webber], that was wrong. Its different in F1. In GP2 and the other series you are paying for your drive, you race for yourself. In F1 you are being paid TO drive, so you have to drive for the team." What Fisi did wasn't nessecarily team orders. But on the other hand it very well could have been.
But we also Fisi do the same sort of self-less act at Turkey, where he put his own car into a spin at the first turn to avoid colliding with Fernando. Fisi's a good 2nd driver...just like Rubens was, and Felipe is for Schumi.
No, you're right it wouldn't be unoticed. But is wasn't unoticed for Alonso either. Even if the stewards didn't release the little caption saying "Car 1 Under investigation" doesn't mean they didn't look at it at all. They clarified the rules after the Hungary incident and as a result all moves like that are legal. It was legal for MS, and now its legal for FA. On a Moral note, no it should be punished, I AGREE WITH YOU, I wanna make that clear. But the rules say its legal, so there's no point arguing that Alonso should be penalised...why? on what basis? Schumi wasn't at Hungary, because, according to the stewards, it was a legal move. And now, according to the stewards, FA's move was legal.point was that if MS did what Alonso did in that lap it wouldnt be unnoticed.
That was a cleaver move. I've seen a few drivers do that at that chicane at Monza. Those big black kerbs will destroy the undertray of the car if Alonso was to drive over them at the speed he was traveling. At much lower speeds drivers will weave between them, but it surely wasn't posible to do that with the sort of speed Feranando was carrying into that corner.He just stops turning the car with no fight.
That is just people looking for more to add to a weak argument. You seem to be one of the few people who can put together a really good argument against Alonso on this. The idea that he jumped the start is stupid, just people making things up to add to their arguments. Same thing often happens when schumi does something wrong. "Oh did you notice he also did this too...bad boy he is" when in actual fact hye didn't, or if he did it was marginal.Some people say he crossed the line before the start but I dont think it's anything serious
Actually the chicane was cut in lap 2.and all in one lap
'm just joking around btw, please don't take offence.I'd also like to point out that my posts on this topic (and the Monza GP topic) are in NO WAY meant to be a personal attack on you or your views FLC, so please don't feel like they are, I can understand why that may seem the case. Its just like I said before your arguments against Alonso seem to be the strongest (by far) out of the few I've seen, and actually get my mind thinking. They are more complete than the old "Alonso was wrong, end of" sort of post, and provoaks a good discussion and debate that I enjoy. So please don't take offense...insted take it as a complement that I find your posts so well founded.
