Silly Season 2012/2013

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zyphro wrote:I wonder if Rosberg is off to Ferrari; apparently Massa has an offer from a midfield team.
Massa never really recovered from his injury and if he still enjoys F1 he should take what drive he can. Perez for Massa swap?
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smellybeard wrote:
zyphro wrote:I wonder if Rosberg is off to Ferrari; apparently Massa has an offer from a midfield team.
Massa never really recovered form his injury and if he still enjoys F1 he should take what drive he can. Perez for Massa swap?
I personally think Perez is over-rated and don't think he's matured enough for Ferrari yet. He needs to show a bit more. I'd take Rosberg over him; but where would Massa go? Hmm.

Ross Brawn:
"We want to be a team that every driver wants to drive for."
This makes me think Merc are not targeting Hamilton after all. Perhaps in the future.

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zyphro wrote:I personally think Perez is over-rated and don't think he's matured enough for Ferrari yet. He needs to show a bit more.
Ferrari do tend to take young drivers when they seem just a teensy bit too young and inexperienced but it often works out. Maybe it's a good place to work!

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smellybeard wrote:
zyphro wrote:I personally think Perez is over-rated and don't think he's matured enough for Ferrari yet. He needs to show a bit more.
Ferrari do tend to take young drivers when they seem just a teensy bit too young and inexperienced but it often works out. Maybe it's a good place to work!
what? thats exactly opposite to how Ferrari hires drivers

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Hulkenberg is rumored to go to Ferrari too, rumors became stronger the last few days. Would make a bit of sense, but the rumor of Vettel going to Ferrari in 2014 won't go away either, and I can't see Alonso stopping/going to another team either.

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smellybeard wrote:
zyphro wrote:I personally think Perez is over-rated and don't think he's matured enough for Ferrari yet. He needs to show a bit more.
Ferrari do tend to take young drivers when they seem just a teensy bit too young and inexperienced but it often works out. Maybe it's a good place to work!
Inexperienced? Since when?

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zyphro wrote:Inexperienced? Since when?
Since Villeneuve? Probably before that even. They don't often take on 'inexperienced' drivers but they do take a punt on the odd one. Yeah, Mick and Alonso were well proven champions before they got to Ferrari but Fast Eddie and Massa had only two or three seasons each.

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I'm hearing rumours of Nico Hülkenberg replacing Massa in 2013. Suppossedly he already had a seat fitted in Maranello.

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If the Hulkenburg rumours are true, I think Perez can say goodbye to that Ferrari drive. Hulkenburg will be there for a while, he has a lot of talent and potential.

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Websta wrote:If the Hulkenburg rumours are true, I think Perez can say goodbye to that Ferrari drive. Hulkenburg will be there for a while, he has a lot of talent and potential.
Hulkenburg, like some other young germans, is well financed and well managed. Riding on the Schuey effect, they've done better than others of their generation. This shouldn't be confused with talent.

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smellybeard wrote:
Websta wrote:If the Hulkenburg rumours are true, I think Perez can say goodbye to that Ferrari drive. Hulkenburg will be there for a while, he has a lot of talent and potential.
Hulkenburg, like some other young germans, is well financed and well managed. Riding on the Schuey effect, they've done better than others of their generation. This shouldn't be confused with talent.
what is the schumacher effect?
One can say formula 1 was not really on the map before RTL and Schumi and without a doubt he did for motorsport what Boris Becker and Steffie Graf did for Tennis .
But I´d say it´s unfair to Vettel,Glock ,Hulk ,Rosberg,Sutil discounting their talent completely .Even Ralfi had LOTS of podiums and wins so even he had enough talent for formula 1 and it was not just the brother factor.

If Hulk is a potential World Champion remains to be seen of course ..but then is he worse than Kovalainen ,di resta ,Maldonado or any other non -german F1 pilot?

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I suppose He's tad worse than Kubica and that's, since today, a new variable in equation ;)
First "optimistic" scenarios after RK's last surgery were some short tests in october. Now he's competeing a month earlier in a rally. It could be the same with his possible F1 comeback. Right now the target is 2014, who knows, maybe he will surprise everyone (except the ones who would hire him ;)) in 2013?
Maybe its a bit wishful post, but I'm Polish and could get carried away after today's news ;)

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Kubica back ? that would really be awesome .he really deserves a proper second chancefighting back from that setback..
Would he even be eligible for a superlicense these days? wait..Schumacher was away for a lot longer...so it should not be a problem.

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marcush. wrote:Kubica back ? that would really be awesome .he really deserves a proper second chancefighting back from that setback..
Would he even be eligible for a superlicense these days? wait..Schumacher was away for a lot longer...so it should not be a problem.
I don't expect to ever see Kubica in an F1 car again, sadly.
Honda!

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With Perez's fantastic 2nd place at Monza,could he be with Ferrari next year if he keeps this up?
I think it is very likely