Future of Schumacher

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Signed of course.

Is there a way to find out how many people have signed?
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Ferraripilot wrote:this one works

please sign, Schumacher to Ferrari petition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ferr ... acher-for/
Daft but reasonable. I'd sooner have him driving my second car than Lewis.

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Michael wanted to retire because he was tired of the lack of reliability and updates. Now he has seen some progress, but now he is out. Thank you Haugh. :roll:

Schumi can be beaten by Alonso in Ferrari, yes but at least he can reach the podium and win a few races, which could be much funnier for him than his 3 years in Mercedes.

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snoop1050 wrote:i think its pretty clear now why schumacher has all the failures this season... merc were hoping he would have enough and leave #-o
I'm even sure that it is sabotage.
Other thoughts - Bernie wants keep interest and intrigue for selling F1 for next year, so I also see his efforts in this case.
Michael can do a good job for Sauber, and there is my feeling that he wants racing. 2 year contract would be a good endgame
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yener wrote:Schumacher has given a message to the media:
I want to thank the whole team for the wonderful 3 years. I have enjoyed the driving and working with the Mercedes team. unfortunately it had to end in a unsportive way.

Now he just has been thrown out. That i believe is for sure.

The one who dissapointed me the most is Ross Brawn; i had never expected that he would sell his soul to the devil.
and whats your source for that garbage?

here is what he actually said

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/motors ... 68622.html

this makes perfect sense.
it probably explains why he bothered to turn up to the magny cour test, because he was pinning his last hopes in the updates...which failed.

thats probably why he was waiting to sign, to see what the team could do.
and he clearly thinks they can't do anything, from what hes seen over 3 years. Ham has got no chance.

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i don't understand why schumacher should be treated any different. I would understand everyone's concern and the out cry if he was pushed out in his first career but the second time round his been nothing more but a midfield driver making amateur mistakes.

If its was any other midfield driver who had made the same mistakes then no one would blink an eyelid that the team feels its time to move on

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astracrazy wrote:i don't understand why schumacher should be treated any different. I would understand everyone's concern and the out cry if he was pushed out in his first career but the second time round his been nothing more but a midfield driver making amateur mistakes.

If its was any other midfield driver who had made the same mistakes then no one would blink an eyelid that the team feels its time to move on
...since china he has outraced and outqualified rosberg.
try building some facts into your opinions.

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Ferraripilot wrote:this one works

please sign, Schumacher to Ferrari petition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ferr ... acher-for/
Signed, but it won't mean anything :| .

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astracrazy wrote:i don't understand why schumacher should be treated any different. I would understand everyone's concern and the out cry if he was pushed out in his first career but the second time round his been nothing more but a midfield driver making amateur mistakes.

If its was any other midfield driver who had made the same mistakes then no one would blink an eyelid that the team feels its time to move on
who was that guy that crashed with massa 5 times in a single season? and no it wasnt maldonado
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fiohaa wrote:
thats probably why he was waiting to sign, to see what the team could do.
and he clearly thinks they can't do anything, from what hes seen over 3 years. Ham has got no chance.
I agree perfectly - why would he sign in advance? Time waits for no man, especially not him. Brawn promised much, but ultimately failed to deliver.

Yes Schumacher isn't the same man as before, yes he was rather rusty and lacklustre in 2010; however, I'm seeing a year-on-year improvement. The Singapore crash is over-blown: Button had a crappy slump in the season which is now forgotten about. Schumacher's crash earlier in the season was forgotten about when he struck quickest in qualifying at Monaco. It is this mentality (you're only as good as your last race) which makes the situation seem a lot more puzzling than it is- which it is not.

Fact of the matter is, ever since race one, Schumacher was on it and has at the very least matched Rosberg. They've traded blows but in my opinion, Schumacher is on top currently.

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fiohaa wrote:
astracrazy wrote:i don't understand why schumacher should be treated any different. I would understand everyone's concern and the out cry if he was pushed out in his first career but the second time round his been nothing more but a midfield driver making amateur mistakes.

If its was any other midfield driver who had made the same mistakes then no one would blink an eyelid that the team feels its time to move on
...since china he has outraced and outqualified rosberg.
try building some facts into your opinions.
Why since China? He was beating Rosberg in Australia and Malaysia by a fair margin.

He was ahead from race one- a change from the previous years.

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I hope Schumi stays in F1 next year but the way Mercedes handled this, it's awful and disrespectful to Michael. I expected better from them but then again, it fits their brand image. :wink: So they relied upon Michael's image and name (sponsorship money etc), he helped build the team and after 3 years they simply used him and dumped him in favour of Hamilton. I will be angry if Merc suddenly challenge for both titles next season because Michael deserved a front-running car. If you actually look at what he's done this season, he would be well up there in terms of points scored and could have won a couple of races by now. But you could say there's sabotage in the team hence all the retirements on his side of the garage. The same could be said for McLaren... Funny how both Michael and Lewis have had unusual retirements.

To be honest, after last weekend's Singapore GP, I had a feeling Merc had given Michael the boot out the door. The deal with Lewis was done a while back. If they were keeping Michael. would they not have backed him up by stating something like: ''we think there was an issue with the car and will be investigating'' but they just kept quiet and made Michael look bad. Today we get the news of Lewis joining Merc and no news on Michael. Mercedes' handling of this has come across as very bad. Their Facebook page says it all really - a lot of angry fans venting their frustration. Only a couple days ago did Ross Yawn, sorry Brawn say that things were yet to be decided and that there was way too much speculation. ''I think we will have something to say in the next few weeks or months. Then all will become clear.'' Yeah, what's clear is how badly Mercedes handled this. One thing I can say is, I'm happy I don't have to put up with Michael driving for this awful team anymore but if they start winning next season, it will be a massive insult. I hope they fail miserably after disappointing their fans for the past 3 seasons. I have a feeling that Nico will also have to play second fiddle to Lewis, which was one of his main factors in signing - he wanted #1 status in a team. Time will tell, but I wish Nico well. As for Lewis, I have nothing against him and wish him well also. No doubt he'll have to put up with Ross Yawn's countless lies and failed promises.

P.S. do we think Romain will stay at Lotus? Would be amazing to have Kimi and Michael at Lotus, but that's wishful thinking! Come on LdM, make the call and sign your favourite son - Schumi for 1 final dream swan song!! :D

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His contract was out. the only thing Mercedes did was to not renew his contract.

they haven´t pushed him out or bought him out, they simply chose not to renew his contract.
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I see this all as a damage containing measure from Schumachers side.
He was not prepared to sign a new contract earlier this year -because he wanted to see the upturn of the operation being sustainable and permanent -which it clearly wasn´t.
Schumacher very early on said the team was not yet ready to be a top outfit...
He obviously set targets which weren´t met.I cannpot really see much fail on his side apart from a few collisions -caused ultimately by fighting too far back in the field due to incompetitive machinery.
Mercedes supplied a competitive car exactly two times in thrre seasons...!!!! and each time the car failed!

Why would Schumacher go to magny cours if he was already thinking about retirement ? He thought he had put enough positve pressure on the team to push forward and convince him - the result is obvious.

I fail to see why schumacher should retire when he is the equal of Rosberg in terms of speed and results .He has alot more marketing value .

maybe we see Schumacher doing a favour to sauber and committing to their team helping develop the 2013 contender and in case of competitiveness for podiums he may go for a full season with them .
I still have in the back of my mind the VW name and the constant questioning of which powerplant to use in 2014..that´d be a masterpiece.
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Age marcush, it all about age. Few years back people fought to eliminate discrimination based on skin colour/religion. What about age?
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