pretty much, arch rivalswesley123 wrote:I dont think anyone has to answer that question. A Ferrari engine in the back of the mac will NEVER happen.
2014 will see a Slim-powered Telmex McLarenCHT wrote:I actually think its a matter of time that Mclaren will design their own engine.
It all depends on whether they can secure long term funding to finance such a risky undertaking. McLaren would need upwards of $150million to fund the start of a competitive engine program and at least half that amount annually to keep up with the top engine manufacturers. Where is the money going to come from? The capital markets are closed to McLaren and new sources of private funding are unfeasible. That leaves Señor Slim I guess. But it will have to be a multiple year commitment. As Roger Penske famously said, "only go racing with other people's money".marcush. wrote:Mclaren is a OEM these days and they are spitting in the garden of BMW,VW,Mercedes to name a few.Yes -it´s not uncommon to see Mercedes engines in Nissans and Renault engines in Mercedes but don´t you think it creates more chaos to
actually run a commercial competitors engine to build your own fame ?
Ultimately Mclaren needs to build their own powertrain -simply because they already do this with their roadcars.They need to prove they are the experts in every area -and powertrain is a key field of expertise.
Just look up the Mclaren electronics website and it is blatantly clear they are commited to go the WHOLE route.They have their own development tools in place -comparable to INCA (ETAS) which is used in the rest of the world -a ver unique situation unmatched by DAimler ,VW or BMW methinks..
Mclaren may be the single team actually feeding racetechnology back into commercial car production - a clever move to lure potnetial customers to buy a Mclaren.
marcush. wrote:Mclaren is a OEM these days and they are spitting in the garden of BMW,VW,Mercedes to name a few.Yes -it´s not uncommon to see Mercedes engines in Nissans and Renault engines in Mercedes but don´t you think it creates more chaos to
actually run a commercial competitors engine to build your own fame ?
Ultimately Mclaren needs to build their own powertrain -simply because they already do this with their roadcars.They need to prove they are the experts in every area -and powertrain is a key field of expertise.
Just look up the Mclaren electronics website and it is blatantly clear they are commited to go the WHOLE route.They have their own development tools in place -comparable to INCA (ETAS) which is used in the rest of the world -a ver unique situation unmatched by DAimler ,VW or BMW methinks..
Mclaren may be the single team actually feeding racetechnology back into commercial car production - a clever move to lure potnetial customers to buy a Mclaren.
wunderkind wrote:It all depends on whether they can secure long term funding to finance such a risky undertaking. McLaren would need upwards of $150million to fund the start of a competitive engine program and at least half that amount annually to keep up with the top engine manufacturers. Where is the money going to come from? The capital markets are closed to McLaren and new sources of private funding are unfeasible. That leaves Señor Slim I guess. But it will have to be a multiple year commitment. As Roger Penske famously said, "only go racing with other people's money".marcush. wrote:Mclaren is a OEM these days and they are spitting in the garden of BMW,VW,Mercedes to name a few.Yes -it´s not uncommon to see Mercedes engines in Nissans and Renault engines in Mercedes but don´t you think it creates more chaos to
actually run a commercial competitors engine to build your own fame ?
Ultimately Mclaren needs to build their own powertrain -simply because they already do this with their roadcars.They need to prove they are the experts in every area -and powertrain is a key field of expertise.
Just look up the Mclaren electronics website and it is blatantly clear they are commited to go the WHOLE route.They have their own development tools in place -comparable to INCA (ETAS) which is used in the rest of the world -a ver unique situation unmatched by DAimler ,VW or BMW methinks..
Mclaren may be the single team actually feeding racetechnology back into commercial car production - a clever move to lure potnetial customers to buy a Mclaren.
As for VW becoming an engine supplier...........doubtful. The only way to do it is to acquire Cosworth's F1 engine operations (VW bought Cosworth's engineering business a few years ago), or acquire the remnants of the PURE business. A long shot will be for Dr. Piech to assemble the talents at Audi racing and Porsche racing to start from scratch.
BMW, forget them. No one in the upper echelon of BMW has any desire to race in F1.
Building engines is a completely different thing though. And with Mclaren as partner instead of Williams it might be a lucrative deal.wunderkind wrote:BMW, forget them. No one in the upper echelon of BMW has any desire to race in F1.
Pretty sure it´s also these things,Raptor22 wrote:its not the tight regs but rather the rules around engine homologation that keeps BMW and Cosworth out. Cosworth realised that they had a potent engine but to get reliability they needed to be able to develop the engine in the first season. Thats not allowed hence we have three engine suppliers in F1 now.
