Fuel combustion by heating

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
Mikey_s
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Ciro,

just happened to be browsing on GDI the other day and came across this site;
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=55158

in it (at the end), it mentions a new sort of hybrid engine whic seems to be a compression ignition gasoline vehicle... not sure if it really fits the bill as far as your ideas are concerend, but I thought I'd mention it anyway;
One of the interesting aspects of GDI is that, in some respects, it makes a gasoline engine more like a diesel. While we will discuss diesels later, it’s important to note that there is another technology under development which promises to be better than either gasoline or diesel. It’s called Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition (HCCI), and it amounts to basically a gasoline-fueled engine that, at times, thinks it’s a diesel. While it does behave like a normal spark-ignited gasoline engine under some circumstances, under others it disables the sparkplugs and ignition system and relies solely upon spontaneous combustion due to compression, just like a diesel. The advantage of this dual personality is that gasoline does have certain benefits relative to diesel when it comes to emissions and availability. Furthermore, the fuel itself is generally less expensive and is more suitable for cold climates. Let’s face it, gasoline is the preferred fuel today and will likely stay that way for the near to moderate future. While technologies such as GDI and others we will discuss later have greatly improved the efficiency of gasoline engines, they are still at an inherent disadvantage to diesels in some respects, primarily having to do with pumping losses. HCCI tries to combine the strengths of both gasoline and diesel engines in a way that reduces their weak points. The end result is expected to be a gasoline engine that is cheaper to build than a diesel yet has as good or better fuel efficiency with lower emissions and superior performance. At least that’s the goal. While there currently are no HCCI engines in production, it’s very likely that we will see one soon, probably from an Asian manufacturer. Since the cost of the technology will at first be relatively higher than for a standard gasoline engine, it probably will first appear on luxury and/or performance models that are likely of interest to SEMA members.
There is no reason why gasoline shouold not be used in a CI engine, as long as you can control the tendency for pre-ignition... I guess that's why direct injection would be used for the above concept. (by the way, although gas oil is the 'normal' fuel used for diesel engines, they use kerosine in dscandinavia as gas oil tends to form wax crystals at lower temps (even with flow modifiers...)
Mike

ACRO
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intersting article indeed,but somehow it looks in some terms more like a promotion text of an own project than a tehnical analysis. this can be seen at terms like "petrol is chaper and avbailibity is better than diesel". well, in most parts of th world the oppsite is true.
directed injected petrols can rally achieve better efficincy than conbventional ones, but on the one hand mainly only in partial load regime and on the other hand they ar still far away regarding thermal efficiency from modern direct injected diesels.

the article also does not describe how they want to manage the self ignition on a petrol engine. with the diesel cycle (sucking only air and short before end of the compression cycle spray in fuel) or the petrol cycle with sucking a mixture and compressing commonly.

the post above with the petrol ignition by the shiny hot exhaust valves at dragstars is technically also not a full self ignition principle, here the valves "are" the spark plugs (better glow plugs ). in the dragstar engine, wich is optimized only to get full power for few seconds, you can adjust compression vs. mixture and ignition point for this kind of ignition, but the dragstar would of course stall after short time when you would e.g try to idle the engine with exhaust valve ignition technique.

so i fail to see here what they are exactly try to develop and with what technique they want to "let the petrol think its a diesel".
of course it maybe that they have something what we currnetly cannot imagine, lets wait.

best regards