should DRS be banned in qualifying ?

[WhiteBlue]

Never change a running system. Qualifying is as good as it gets now. Can't remember having seen that many exciting qualifying sessions as we are having right now in past decades with other rules.

I also support the theory that qualifying should be balls to the walls with everything that can be legally wrung out of the cars. There is enough strategic driving and tyre and fuel management in the races.

[FrukostScones]

Never change a running system. Qualifying is as good as it gets now.Can't remember having seen that many exciting qualifying sessions as we are having right now in past decades with other rules.

I also support the theory that qualifying should be balls to the walls with everything that can be legally wrung out of the cars. There is enough strategic driving and tyre and fuel management in the races.

We know the cars are very close together this year performance wise (we see this in the races without DRS), I don't think DRS has anything to do with the exciting qualifying sessions. It is more likely the EBD-ban. In 2011 we also had DRS, was it that close like this year? DRS in qualifying also disguises the fact how slow the cars have become.

[WhiteBlue]

That still makes no point to change something that is a superb product now. Performance would suffer if you take unlimited DRS away from qualifying and we want the cars driven to the limit in qualifying.

[agip]

Whats your problem with DRS in qualifying?
Let the cars be fast please.

[FrukostScones]

That still makes no point to change something that is a superb product now. Performance would suffer if you take unlimited DRS away from qualifying and we want the cars driven to the limit in qualifying.

Cars without DRS would still be driven to the limit in qualifying, also without artificial DRS assistance. Just ban it for one race.
Would it make a difference edit: on the gaps in the top-ten ? Which team would cry the most (I'd guess the $$$-teams).
And what if Lotus super-duffy-f-duck-drs-is-the-trigger will be an instant-PolePositon-device?

[Nando]

Renaults system is not simply a "build-it-and-it-works" system.

Arguably you can say they have wasted a whole season trying to get a system working that they haven´t even tried in races yet.
They talked, but they haven´t walked.

Frankly, DRS is what keeps modern F1 cars somewhat respectable in in the whole picture,

[WhiteBlue]

Cars without DRS would still be driven to the limit in qualifying, also without artificial DRS assistance.

I believe you are in error there. Cars would definitely have lower performance without unlimited DRS in qualifying. It is technically impossible otherwise. DRS lowers the air resistance and adds performance. How can you argue against that? It makes no sense.

[FrukostScones]

Cars without DRS would still be driven to the limit in qualifying, also without artificial DRS assistance.

I believe you are in error there. Cars would definitely have lower performance without unlimited DRS in qualifying. It is technically impossible otherwise. DRS lowers the air resistance and adds performance. How can you argue against that? It makes no sense.

c'mon I not talking about performance, I said the cars will be driven as fast as they can be driven like you said, to the limit (but without a flappy flap).
What I meant with difference was a bit unspecific, I did a small edit to enlighten you.

[FrukostScones]

Renaults system is not simply a "build-it-and-it-works" system.

Arguably you can say they have wasted a whole season trying to get a system working that they haven´t even tried in races yet.
They talked, but they haven´t walked.

Frankly, DRS is what keeps modern F1 cars somewhat respectable in in the whole picture,

how sad is that?

[Nando]

That´s how it is. We have to deal with it.

To nerf the cars won´t help.

[FrukostScones]

dp dp

[FrukostScones]

That´s how it is. We have to deal with it.

To nerf the cars won´t help.

nerfing the cars? what is that?

[Nando]

That´s how it is. We have to deal with it.

To nerf the cars won´t help.

nerfing the cars?

yea.

[bhall]

Cars without DRS would still be driven to the limit in qualifying, also without artificial DRS assistance.

I believe you are in error there. Cars would definitely have lower performance without unlimited DRS in qualifying. It is technically impossible otherwise. DRS lowers the air resistance and adds performance. How can you argue against that? It makes no sense.

What does "performance" mean?

[WhiteBlue]

It means a car with higher performance does a shorter lap time. In layman terms faster. At least that is the usual definition.