oh dear - Romain

[dren]

Romain hasn't learned his lesson since his first stint in F1. He should be sh!t-canned at the end of the season.

[clipsy1H]

Romain hasn't learned his lesson since his first stint in F1. He should be sh!t-canned at the end of the season.

but at the moment doesn't exist any good driver on market ... maybe Fisichella or Rubens? i don't know but Kimi next year need a good teammate who can takes points from others because i'm sure he will fight for Championship

[marcush.]

kobayashi is certainly a possibility ,no? Hulk ,di Resta,Sutil,Pic,..the list is endless.

[Hail22]

Here is Romain Grosjean's record thus far in the 2012 season (Collected and reported by Eurosport):

http://asia.eurosport.com/formula-1/for ... tory.shtml

ROMAIN GROSJEAN'S CRASHES

1-Australian GP - Pastor Maldonado tags Grosjean on second lap, the Lotus man has to retire.

2-Malaysian GP - Spins off and retires on lap four after a collision with Michael Schumacher

3-Spanish GP - Sergio Perez sustains a puncture and later retires after a first-lap tangle with Grosjean.

4-Monaco GP - Hits Schumacher going into the first corner, taking out Kamui Kobayashi and Pastor Maldonado.

5-British GP - Contact with Paul Di Resta puts the Force India man out of the race, again on the opening lap.

6-German GP - More lap one shenanigans as he hits Felipe Massa then loses his nosecone colliding with Bruno Senna.

7-Hungarian GP - Nearly commits the cardinal sin of taking out his team-mate as he and Kimi Raikkonen touch.

8-Belgian GP - Banned for one race for swerving into Lewis Hamilton on the approach to turn one, causing multi-car pile-up.

9-Japanese GP - Gets stop-go penalty for running into Mark Webber on the first corner, pushing the Red Bull driver off the track.

Looks to me its worthy of a 6 month ban in order to shape up his mental awareness/consideration for the pure fact he is not the only one racing...

[Shrieker]

6-German GP - More lap one shenanigans as he hits Felipe Massa then loses his nosecone colliding with Bruno Senna.

Uh oh, must've missed this one. That cost Hamilton dear, as he ran over the debris and the consequent puncture erased any chance for points - he was very unlucky to do so though considering he was the 8th car to reach the scene.

[FW17]

Romain Grosjean visits America

[Joie de vivre]

Hahaha

http://jalopnik.com/5950609?utm_campaig ... socialflow

Let's go

[nacho]

He's not going to get better by sitting at home.

Not all of the crashes are his fault really.

Maybe they should make a new seat and lift him a bit to give a clearer view.

He's a heck of a talent on a good day.

[Joie de vivre]

Well you don't win races in first corner. He has to learn this. Sooner the better.

[Cam]

After Spa, I defended Romain and stated that I hoped Lotus keep him on. My mind hasn't changed, although I can see the reasons why there is so much angst against him.

All too often we all are prepared to cast away people for making mistakes. No one is perfect and yes, some take longer to learn than others. With any decision whether to let him go or not, intent needs to be considered. Romain has made efforts to address this, serious efforts. This intent in a person is very hard to come by. Most people simply not have that ability. Its a rare quality that needs to be harnessed and developed. You need only to look at some others that have questionable driving skills and what actions they have employed to improve. To my knowledge - little to nothing has changed with them. So the intent there is far different. That is typical of the majority of people in general.

I once read an article from a team owner (I think) that said he'd rather have a fast car than a reliable one, as you can improve reliability easier than gaining speed. The same IMO applies to drivers. Romain is quick and fearless. He just needs to be mentored so perhaps the team needs to take more responsibility. Maybe Kimi needs too as well. He needs support to grow, not to be cast aside like trash.

While its impossible to look into the future, Romain can certainly be a World Champion, and if/when that occurs, it'll make this very tough time a great story for the ages.

[nacho]

At least he admits his mistakes and wants to avoid them... unlike some other serial crashers.

[Just_a_fan]

5-British GP - Contact with Paul Di Resta puts the Force India man out of the race, again on the opening lap.

Watch the video of this one. DiResta basically chops across RG's nose and there was no way RG was going to avoid him. It was a light contact that just happened to puncture the tyre. Very harsh to lay this at RG's door in my view.

[Hail22]

5-British GP - Contact with Paul Di Resta puts the Force India man out of the race, again on the opening lap.

Watch the video of this one. DiResta basically chops across RG's nose and there was no way RG was going to avoid him. It was a light contact that just happened to puncture the tyre. Very harsh to lay this at RG's door in my view.

I will take a look at it, but my post is merely quoting Eurosport's view on his career/year thus far.

[Ral]

5-British GP - Contact with Paul Di Resta puts the Force India man out of the race, again on the opening lap.

Watch the video of this one. DiResta basically chops across RG's nose and there was no way RG was going to avoid him. It was a light contact that just happened to puncture the tyre. Very harsh to lay this at RG's door in my view.

I will take a look at it, but my post is merely quoting Eurosport's view on his career/year thus far.

Not having go at you personally, but that does appear to be Grosjean's problem more than his actual on-track behaviour: people are just quoting what's being written rather then trying to remember what actually happened for themselves.

And the press isn't helping in that respect. The BBC just put up a video of the incidents, no analysis at all, clearly leaving the impression Grosjean is crash prone. Sky did provide analysis, but even though they counted similarly to Will Buxton (see below), didn't come to a firm conclusion but just kinda left it at that and the only lingering thought is "that's a lot of crashing". Anthony Davidson was the fairest, probably in part because he just actually had a look at all the incidents. But then he is completely undone by being followed up by Johnny Herbert almost choking on his vitriol.

Will Buxton wrote a piece coming to the conclusion only 3 of his accidents were really his fault. I think he forgot Germany, but even so, that would suddenly put him in with Maldonado or something and nobody seems to even remember his crashing tendencies. And unlike Maldonado, I don't think Grosjean does it on purpose. Yet he is made out as the bad guy.

Anyone remember Hamilton last season? Anyone remember the press saying he should hang up his helmet or be fired for the number of crashes he was involved in? Neither do I.

[munudeges]

Seg, I think you're a bit too harsh there. If that has been the case, he would never have made it to F1.

Well, it is the case......and he has. I also hate people labelling him as a 'rookie', and I hate that word at the best of times. He's 26.