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It looked so good for Renault and Alonso and than that stupid incident...he lost 14 seconds in 3 or 4 laps, than the pitstop that took 20 seconds and than he still had some problems. But again....A brilliant race of Alonso! He really had the pace and I hope that he can win at Suzuka and Interlagos!
Great sportsman! You saw him congratulating Schumi after the race. Not everybody would do that!
Damn I'm so dissappointed
Fernando showed incredible pace all through the race, either on wet or on dry weather tyres. If it had not been for that wheelnut I think he might still have been close to the win.
However the main problem was the change of tyres. I'm not sure who took that decision, but it was a simple misjudgement.
Even when they changed Alonso to dry weathers, I said it was too early and it proved that way. It would have been better to wait just one more lap.
What worries me is that Schu is in the lead, he'll drive any competitor off in that case. Well if such thing happens I hope they sanction him severly.
And once again, Kimi has been screwed over by McLaren reliability :(.
Kinky move from Sato on the last lap there, though good to see the SA06 ahead of an STR and a Spyker for once. Now they're just missing their first point :).
Nice first finish for Yamamoto.
Plain horrible day for Toyota.
Poor move with Renault in regards to the tyre choice for Alonso and bad luck with the pit crew. Did anybody see Flavio's reaction when the power went out on the tv monitors lol.
I know at the end they said they are going to investigate what happen with Heldfeld... He so got screwed over!!!
Where was Toyota....They are starting to make Super Aguri look good
Nice Tidbit-Spyker's 2007 race driver Christijan Albers could next year test for Ferrari, it has emerged.
Written into the Silverstone based team's new formula one engine contract with Ferrari, negotiated by Michiel Mol and Jean Todt, is a clause allowing Spyker drivers to test for the Italian squad.
Albers' manager Lodewijk Varossieau confirmed the story.
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
Wow, what a race. Best action since Hungary. Since the FIA seems to want to create competition by rule changes, maybe they should look into mandating that certain races be run wet each year. I mean, if they can make the Paul Ricard circuit wet at any time, they should be able to do that at most any track.
Excellent drives from so many drivers. Alonso started great, Kubica was running phenomenally until he switched to dry tires too eary. Good drives from Button and Barrichello as well.
Sadly, Sato again showed why he's a waste of oxygen. You have to move way over before the turn in those situations if you're running that slow. And bad luck (again) for Kimi. He won't have much more of that though.
Hopefully even the haters can give it up to Schu this time. Fantastic run in qualifying to get himself in position to challenge for the win, and an absolutely perfect (and ethical, it should be noted) race. He was surely helped by Renault's mistakes, but I think it would've been very close either way.
theSuit wrote:Oh my god - look at the new twist to the conspiracy - now the wheel nuts are favoring ferrari too!
Who said the wheels nuts are favouring ferrari?
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
manchild wrote:How could Schuey’s Ferrari start the race with rings/covers on rear wheels (officially ducts and part of braking system) and finish race legally without them when ducts as a part of braking system are subject of post race scrutinizing? Ducts can’t be *found on car and inspected in “Parc Ferme” and they were on car when car pre-race inspections.
*Please don’t tell me that Ferrari can give them to FIA from garage because that is completely against whole idea of “Parc Ferme” – what enters the race must match what is found in “Parc Ferme” so that it can be inspected by FIA.
According to the 2006 FIA Sporting Regulations:
"Each car will be deemed to be in parc fermé from the time at which it leaves the pit lane for the first time during qualifying practice until the green lights are illuminated at the start of the formation lap which immediately precedes the start of the race."
So after the race starts, the cars are not in parc ferme conditions.
Oh, and furthermore:
"If the FIA technical delegate is satisfied that changes in climatic conditions necessitate alterations to the specification of a car changes may be made to the brake cooling and radiator ducts. These changes may be made at any time after the message “CHANGE IN CLIMATIC CONDITIONS” is shown on the timing monitors, from this point the choice of brake cooling and radiator ducts is free."
Rings/covers were inspected before the race and car started the race with them so they must be checked by FIA after the race in "Parc Ferme" because they are officialy part of the braking system.
Since they can't be found on car in "Parc Ferme" they loose legality because mechanics had access to them. That's what "Parc Ferme" is for - to prevent mechanics and any other person altering car's condintion before FIA inspects it.
bhallg2k wrote:"If the FIA technical delegate is satisfied that changes in climatic conditions necessitate alterations to the specification of a car changes may be made to the brake cooling and radiator ducts. These changes may be made at any time after the message “CHANGE IN CLIMATIC CONDITIONS” is shown on the timing monitors, from this point the choice of brake cooling and radiator ducts is free."
That FIA technical delegate accidentaly happens to be Charlie Whiting - same guy who didn't menage to figure out that mass damper is illegal for 12 months and 15 races so he banned it in the middle of the season.
Good race, and bad luck for Reno. They will sorry for missed oportunity to make a decisive advantage. As in many cases this season, and on this race also has shown that Fisicela is clasical third class driver who can't stand one lap in front on anybody. Only perfect car of Reno gives him big advantage and hides partly how slow and stupid he is. His mistakes can be decisive in championship.
My TV comentator who don't hides his passion for Reno and Alonso, finally say a good comment in the race. It was on Kimi failure and his comment was "That's way Kimi is moving to Ferrari".
For all of you that didn't comment on the race and again talks about FIA and Ferrari, i can say, at least for moment stop, because your comments are so tendencious in this moments, so when in future you will write some truth nobody will believe in that.
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manchild wrote:That FIA technical delegate accidentaly happens to be Charlie Whiting - same guy who didn't menage to figure out that mass damper is illegal for 12 months and 15 races so he banned it in the middle of the season.
Ok, everything can be a conspiracy.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled Ferrari hating.
In addition to what bhallg2k have posted, I would like to note that all F1 wheels help the cooling system. If what you are saying was right - all teams wouldnt be able to change wheels.
Ferrari's wheel covers arent an official brake-cooling system of its own. That is a misinterpretation. It's an improvement of the regualr one.
Fisi saved Renault's ass today, excuse my french. He did really good today.
Renault's team orders are nothing to complain about, even though I know that if Ferrari did the same - there was an uproar. It's part of the sport and a good time to realise that.
It looked so good for Renault and Alonso and than that stupid incident...he lost 14 seconds in 3 or 4 laps, than the pitstop that took 20 seconds and than he still had some problems. But again....A brilliant race of Alonso! He really had the pace and I hope that he can win at Suzuka and Interlagos! 
