Vettel-Ferrari 2014 discussion

[AlpineF1]

Ferrari don't have the abilities Red Bull have in terms of engineering, Red Bull just seem to make things happen just at the right time. Ferrari just make brilliant cars then get outrun later in the season when the development process isn't as good as other teams, this wasn't the case in the Schumacher as he was so informed on setups, development,etc. Vettel doesn't do that as much he pays attention to setups but not like Schumi did. In conclusion i dont think Vettel should move to Ferrari i think he will suffer. But it seems like a done deal now anyway...

[raymondu999]

Vettel doesn't do that as much he pays attention to setups but not like Schumi did.

In honesty - I don't think we're in a position to make this call before we have first hand experience of working with them.

I recently had the good fortune of spending the last few race weekends in the paddock, and in the Singapore pitlane, and while I wasn't in the Red Bull garage nor with Red Bull - I did manage to catch several glimpses of Seb making and serving sandwiches and lemonade for the mechanics in their break, and you could feel that the mechanics loved him. There was a real sense of camaraderie there.

Obviously this says nothing about him actually WORKING in the sense of discussing setup and feedback for car updates, but he was very definitely a figure that the RBR team rallied around.

[donskar]

Ciro for the win. I will never forgive the people who drove him from this place.

One of many who are missed.

[AlpineF1]

Vettel doesn't do that as much he pays attention to setups but not like Schumi did.

In honesty - I don't think we're in a position to make this call before we have first hand experience of working with them.

I recently had the good fortune of spending the last few race weekends in the paddock, and in the Singapore pitlane, and while I wasn't in the Red Bull garage nor with Red Bull - I did manage to catch several glimpses of Seb making and serving sandwiches and lemonade for the mechanics in their break, and you could feel that the mechanics loved him. There was a real sense of camaraderie there.

Obviously this says nothing about him actually WORKING in the sense of discussing setup and feedback for car updates, but he was very definitely a figure that the RBR team rallied around.

I love Seb as a person, dont get me wrong i'm a massive fan of Red Bull i just think its the wrong choice for him

[PlatinumZealot]

Did Vettel actually say he is in talks with Ferrari? I don't know where this Vettel to Ferrari news are coming from...

[raymondu999]

Who ever says they are in talks before making a final announcement? Lewis never said he was in talks with Mercedes until his Mercedes announcement. Perez never said he was in talks with McLaren until his Mercedes announcement, etc etc.

[CHT]

Ferrari car development has been massively handicapped by the lack of track testing, and until they can prove they can match the other teams in wind tunnel development, Vettel should be better off staying put at RBR. Any way, 2014 will be a big gamble for everyone due to the new engine, so it is most unlikely for Vettel to want to make a decision a before the new engine impact and pecking order become clearer.

With the current driver market, I believe Vettel should be able to choose and pick whichever team he wish when the time comes in 2014, be it Ferrari, Mclaren or even Merc.

I believe the only motivation for Vettel to leave RBR is when RBR stop producing a championship winning car, not because Ferrari starts dangling a big fat pay cheque

[raymondu999]

Or boredom. And I'm dead serious. If you win so many titles in a row with the same team, things do get a bit stale. Try playing f1 2012 at a level where you can repeatedly take the title with ease. It gets boring after a while.

I don't believe Merc would be an option as they seem to have made their long term bed with Lewis, but I think McLaren could be an option. Somehow Button-Perez seems like an interim solution to me. No offense to either driver. They did of course express interest on Vettel as far back as 07... http://en.espnf1.com/mclaren/motorsport ... 28490.html

[Websta]

Or boredom. And I'm dead serious. If you win so many titles in a row with the same team, things do get a bit stale. Try playing F1 2012 at a level where you can repeatedly take the title with ease. It gets boring after a while.

It's difficult to judge as a non-racing driver what it feels like to win at the highest level with such regularity. It probably isn't as sweet when your car is the class of the field and no one can even come close (2011), and he may miss the hard fought victories.

Isn't the lack of any challenge is what drove Sebastian Loeb to seek an F1 seat and try leave the WRC in 2009?

[banibhusan]

What are the chances of Kimi going to RBR if Vettel indeed is moving to Ferrari in 2014, assuming Kimi still remains in F1 till then?

[raymondu999]

What are the chances of Kimi going to RBR if Vettel indeed is moving to Ferrari in 2014, assuming Kimi still remains in F1 till then?

Same as any top non-rb driver I'd suspect