should DRS be banned in qualifying ?

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should DRS be banned in qualifying

Poll ended at 13 Oct 2012, 20:43

yes
11
30%
outside the DRS zone
6
16%
no
20
54%
 
Total votes: 37

Stradivarius
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One effect that we see from using DRS in qualifying is that the relative performance of the cars change from qualifying to the race. For example, Mercedes qualified relatively well in the start of this season, but performed worse in the races. (Although this was mainly due to tyre wear and poor reliability, it could also partly be a result of an efficient DRS.) This is important, as DRS will only aid overtaking in situations where a slower car is in front of a faster car. The straight-line speed advantage of DRS does not fully compensate for the loss of downforce when one car is trailing another, it only reduces the overal disadvantage. Even if overtaking was easier than ever, we would rarely see one if the cars started in the same order as they would perform in the race. The fastest guy would start in front and take off in the lead, the slowest guy would start in the back and stay there. So allowing DRS in qualifying is in conformance with the other measures that are made to improved the show by altering the performance between qualifying and race; tyres that wear out faster, low fuel in qualifying and no refuling during the race.

If we compare this to the situation before 2005, it has improved the show a lot. Back then, the cars qualified with the ammount of fuel that was used at the start of the race, and the tyres were much more consistent and refuling was allowed during the race. This meant that the relative performance of the cars was almost constant and we hardly saw overtaking at all. Some positions were altered du to the fact that some qualified with less fuel than others, but the result was not an overtaking on track, but alterations of positions during the pitstops.

Another important aspect, of course, is to avoid what happened with KERS in 2009 where it turned out to be an advantage to optimize the car without using the system at all.

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Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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My feelings on DRS is either ban it completely or allow it total freedom. DRS zone's create artificial racing. Right now I'd rather be flying than watching F1. Some tracks are a DRS snore fest

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WhiteBlue wrote:That still makes no point to change something that is a superb product now. Performance would suffer if you take unlimited DRS away from qualifying and we want the cars driven to the limit in qualifying.
Do you advocate the abolition of the post-qualifying parc fermé as well then?

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Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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I am not sure if it is a good move. I know that safety should be first but I am afraid that without unrestricted DRS in the qualifying teams would gear the cars shorter as it would be optimal for the qualifying performance. Then in the actual race the driver wanting to use the DRS would run out of gears and hit the rev limiter and the whole DRS thing would be useless.

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Cam
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piast9 wrote:I am not sure if it is a good move. I know that safety should be first but I am afraid that without unrestricted DRS in the qualifying teams would gear the cars shorter as it would be optimal for the qualifying performance. Then in the actual race the driver wanting to use the DRS would run out of gears and hit the rev limiter and the whole DRS thing would be useless.
I doubt the teams would lack the knowledge to unitentionally short gear with the experience they have. If anything it might add some spice. Gears are changing anyway aren't they - reducing in number available - so might as well get used to it now.
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piast9 wrote:I am not sure if it is a good move. I know that safety should be first but I am afraid that without unrestricted DRS in the qualifying teams would gear the cars shorter as it would be optimal for the qualifying performance. Then in the actual race the driver wanting to use the DRS would run out of gears and hit the rev limiter and the whole DRS thing would be useless.
I m pretty sure the teams will get the max out of the gearing choices. And I don't care if DRS works in the race. In the race it is always a thin line between too easy and a Trulli train. People will always complain. DRS makes racing artificial, DRS makes overtaking too easy, DRS is useless (when they can't overtake despite DRS), DRS is causing DRS-trains, DRS is .... etc.
I think we will see a more "true" grid order in 2013. Of course you could argue that DRS was part of the game and so the grid was always true, but like FIA now admits DRS is and was born as overtaking aid and not as quali performance booster.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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The FIA decided to limit it in qualifying for 2013
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