Ferrari F2012

[Forza]

Some more close-ups from Thursday at Brazilian GP

[Ludus]

if i see well, the car mounts the new diffuser used by alonso in austin. has it worked bad in austin or i'm wrong ?

[aral]

if i see well, the car mounts the new diffuser used by alonso in austin. has it worked bad in austin or i'm wrong ?

Car not set up yet for this race yet. Diffuser is still in place from Austin.

[godlameroso]

the exhaust layout seems different? Or did they race that in Austin?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

the exhaust layout seems different? Or did they race that in Austin?

I don't see anything that looks new mate. What specifically do you see?

[munudeges]

Nothing new there that I can see. The much vaunted update hasn't materialised, which it was never going to simply because there is a long lead-time in getting something like that together.

They've needed something not just to beat Red Bull but to get the points they need. They're faced with the prospect at the moment where even if Vettel retires with a mechanical problem (a very distinct possibility) they probably won't have the performance to get the third place they need.

[f1316]

Come on. We know by now that the updates won't be visible on a Thursday.

They're likely to be only small in any case. For some reason, Ferrari have long been confident of being competitive at Interlagos - perhaps because they think the layout and the altitude suit the car/engine/kers - but it's unlikely to be because a major update has somehow turned up in the week since Austin.

[Intego]

We do see updates on Thursdays as they have to be scrutinized before getting on track usually. E.g. the pics below show the teams bringing their cars to the FIA plus some additional wings.
However, you're right, there probably won't be any updates this weekend as it's the last race with Austin just few days past ...

[sucof]

Hi, my first post here
I was wondering why don't ferrari experiment with a different rear suspension or just run a lower rake, if the diffuser re attachment is the main problem?
Remember, Massa found his speed when started using a softer setup.

[infy]

Hi, my first post here
I was wondering why don't ferrari experiment with a different rear suspension or just run a lower rake, if the diffuser re attachment is the main problem?
Remember, Massa found his speed when started using a softer setup.

A softer setup would normally just dumb a car down and give you more stability (in terms of less sliding). Its less punishing, but not normally as quick or responsive.

[Intego]

Welcome to the forum sucof and infy.
I had rather thought for solving diffusor stalling issues they had to go for a stiffer setup to make the aero more stable. But then they would lose their traction performance.
That was the problem McLaren suffered in 2010 (correct me if I'm wrong). They had to run a stiff car to make the aero work.

[raymondu999]

Yes - the 2010 McLaren had a giga-normous diffuser, which was so big that it started stalling at too high ride heights. That car was mechanically strong, but compromised thanks to their overly stiff suspension.

[Coefficient]

Wow, I hated this car at the start of the year but in those shots it looks great! It has real character as you can see the battlescars all over it now as Alonso has wrangled the beast hard all season long. There are little damaged bits and pieces that had they had more time would have been replaced but instead they've patched them up and sent it back into the fray and to me it makes the car look fantastic. Its battle hardened and wonderful! When this car crosses the line on Sunday it should be left exactly as it stands and put in the Ferrari museum, no polishing or tarting up or anything. Just as it is! That car deserves the title as much as Alonso! It's developed a personality over the year, yes it was a dog by Maranello's standards but more tenacious terrier than posing poodle and it has proven ideal in Alonso's hands. Sure it would be nice for it to have had .5% better performance but then would I be making this comment if it had? Somehow I doubt it. A remarkable car by any standard!

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Fernando Flo-Vis RW today



Via F1/Sutton

[Forza]

For comparison Massa is using older FW spec

Brazilian GP - Friday FP1