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rkn
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See who finally pulled their fingers out!

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Or should I say welded their fingers out... and started making real cars

New Ford IosisX is absolutely beautiful.
Check out the tyres and the "cockpit" with f1 levers for gearing

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z122 ... fault.aspx

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Spyker MF1
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OMG that is the most ugly gaudy thing I have ever seen
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Interesting arrangement on the centre console there, very... distracting :D

Not really my kinda machine, how long until someone steals those wheels and tyres :wink:

Odd location for a lever on the front seat, at first I thought it was some kindof in-car urination device, now *that's* a 'concept' that would get attention :lol:

I'm not keen on these 'crossover 4x4s', but then again, I'm not keen on just about any 4x4s.

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Tom
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I've got to agree its horrible, nothing new, nothing interesting really. I know these things are loved over the US but I prefer smaller, less dangerous, more economical designs. Yes JimmyK, most SUVs are really terrible. They are designed to appeal through size at the expense of fuel economy, safety and style, build quality is often the worst of any car i work on and the 'off road capabilities' are a joke as most of them struggle not to roll off a flat smooth road.
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That's a Mazda CX-9 with body cladding and a bastardized interior - nothing more. While the CX-9 is actually a wonderful drive as it is more car than SUV, dealers cannot give them away here. For some off reason, Americans feel the need to have an SUV with a truck chassis and that drives like a truck. Put more bluntly, most like SUVs that drive like --- with a large V8 that swigs gasoline and really doesn't make that much power. The typical SUV buyer never goes off road and many even slow down to go over recessed train tracks.

Other companies have made sedan based SUV's, such as Nissan, but still they do not out-sell their larger, inefficent, lumbering competitors that are merly pick-up trucks with a larger cab.

This is another badge-engineering disaster waiting to happen at Ford. For some reason Ford thinks it is a sound decision to change the trim pieces and the badge on a vehicle, raise the price, and call it a new car. Pathetic!

Without innovation and a few risks - Ford will never get out of its current financial situation. Their cars look bland, use cheap materials, and the drive is terrible in a very flobbery kinda way.

Mazda has the right cars however they are not advertised well and the buying public is unaware of what they offer. When people think Mazda they think Miata - they really need to work on their reputation. Drive a CX-9 and then drive a Ford Explorer: you have to be brain dead to purchase the Exploer. Did I mention that Mazda's 2.3L turbo is an amazing motor? Having driven both the CX-9 and MazdaSpeed 6 (MPS in Europe), the power that turbo I4 has is jaw dropping and the transmissions are equally as good.
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Does it have neon lights below the car and in rims too? :roll:

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ketanpaul
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Well ford seems desparate to get some attention at motorshows and that has resulted in a really weird concept

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Ciro Pabón
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Is the Mazda a stylized ripoff of Nissan's Murano (with a less attractive "last window") or am I wrong and Nissan stole it from Mazda? Anyway, I saw the Murano first and I like it, SUV or SOB, whatever.

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The IosysX interior (and the name! It sounds like a medical condition :)) are, well... indescriptible. The interior can only be described as orange. My kid loves it.

Anyway, whatever rocks your boat is OK with me, but don't expect sympathy on the forum: have you noticed that as soon as they have money europeans buy a black car with an engine that resembles a refinery piping, preferably the size of a pencil sharpener? :wink:

They laugh at a Corvette with a clean 427... what can I say? I have hopes for them, but not much. Look how Manchild doesn't even mention the dices or the baby shoes hanging from the rearview mirror... a must where I live. I used to have a RoadRunner hanging in my GTO mirror... Beep, beep! :wink:
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tomislavp4
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I like a few things and I hate a few things :D
The interior sucks!!!
And as long as I´m concerned the americans will never make a better model from the europian and asian models. They want to drive the biggest car, with the biggest engine, biggest tires and to pay the biggest gas bill at the end of the month :lol:

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With all the negativity here surrounding American SUVs, and cars in general, I think a little perspective is in order.

The reason why Americans drive big, truck-based SUVs with gas-guzzling V8s is a matter of economics and space.

Fuel only recently became "expensive" here. I emphasized that because even now, it's not all that much when compared to most other non-OPEC countries around the world. I'm paying $1.89 a gallon for 87 octane gasoline, and that's fairly pricey for me. But I think most Europeans would love to pay what we pay for fuel - converted for currency, fuel here is anywhere between 65-50% cheaper than in Europe.

What that means is that it hasn't been necessary for American car companies to make more fuel efficient engines. It doesn't make sense fiscally to invest in producing more fuel efficient engines when the car-buying public is perfectly happy with the status quo.

But in that regard, attitudes around here are starting to change. Give us a few years to catch up and American cars will be giving the rest of the world a run for its money when it comes to fuel efficiency.

As for the size of our SUVs, well, we've got a lot of room in this country. Thousands upon thousands of miles of really wide roads on mostly open space in which to roam freely. So why not drive a big, truck-based vehicle in it? It's not like we're cramped or anything.

American car companies know that. So they put their SUVs on already mass-produced truck chassis to save money on manufacturing so that the vehicles can be sold at a cheaper price. It may not make for SUVs that handle perfectly, but it makes economic sense. And that's always the bottom line in business.

And like I said, that's all it is: economics and space. If the economic and environmental roles where reversed between Europe and America, the kinds of cars we produced would reflect that.

That said, Ford's concept really is ugly as hell. :lol:

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tomislavp4
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OK maybe it is like you say, but one question: do you drive your big truck in those big wide roads that you mentioned? Once or twice a year?

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Those big, wide roads are literally everywhere. It's really difficult not to drive on them on a daily basis.

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Ford, just like GM, are hemorrhaging because of lost sales. One of their main pillars of profits, trucks, have seen a rapid decline in sales. So what we now see are desperate measures to draw the customers into the showroms, either from promotions or visually interesting designs. This new IosisX definitely falls into that category. It's got tons of bling, chrome, and visual distractions appealing to a specific sector of potential buyers.
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