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Maybe they will understand better what their fans do and don't want to see in a driver.wesley123 wrote:And then what?
Maybe they'll fire Webber and Vettel!
I'm pretty sure they should have it re-enforced from their fan base...Lycoming wrote:http://static.lolyard.com/lol/suggestion-box.jpg
I'm pretty sure they don't need you to tell them this. From what I can tell, the whole experience has left everybody sour.
Last I understood Red Bull sold drinks.... Certainly something I can vote with my money on.bhallg2k wrote:In the entertainment business, no one cares how you feel when you watch, only that you watch.
“When Mark is in his best shape, he is even hard for Sebastian to beat. We are lucky we have two real number ones.”
Would you have known if the best driver/car had won if Vettel obeyed the team order?Cam wrote:
Just like the bitter taste of Red Bull (which won't be purchased ever again). Although I should know better and that I should expect nothing less - I'm still disgusted. I'm disgusted because I have no idea if the best driver/car won. Mark must be kicking himself for not signing with Ferrari - and taking all the tech IP with him. Not only is Mark a clear number 2 - it's also plainly clear that Dietrich Mateschitz is a liar.
Last I understood you were talking about Vettel and Webber as part of Red Bull Racing. But oh god! Maybe after all those anger from the fans they will remove Vettel from the Red Bull 4 and 8 packs!theblackangus wrote:Last I understood Red Bull sold drinks.... Certainly something I can vote with my money on.bhallg2k wrote:In the entertainment business, no one cares how you feel when you watch, only that you watch.
Exactly. We'll never know. That opportunity was stolen from us when Mark turned his engine down and coasted while Vettel didn't. I get team orders, really I do, and I agree with them in most instances, especially when a WDC is on the line, but we're two races in for goodness sakes. Trying to figure out which is the best car on this tyre/fuel conservation trip the FIA is on is hard enough, but to then try and second guess results when team orders come into play - makes an already difficult sport to follow - impossible. Imagine a newcomer watching for the first time trying to work this out...... no wonder people are turning off.Blue fellow wrote:Would you have known if the best driver/car had won if Vettel obeyed the team order?Cam wrote:
Just like the bitter taste of Red Bull (which won't be purchased ever again). Although I should know better and that I should expect nothing less - I'm still disgusted. I'm disgusted because I have no idea if the best driver/car won. Mark must be kicking himself for not signing with Ferrari - and taking all the tech IP with him. Not only is Mark a clear number 2 - it's also plainly clear that Dietrich Mateschitz is a liar.
(I'm not saying what Vettel did was right, he's clearly in the wrong)
And that's your opinion!wesley123 wrote:Last I understood you were talking about Vettel and Webber as part of Red Bull Racing. But oh god! Maybe after all those anger from the fans they will remove Vettel from the Red Bull 4 and 8 packs!theblackangus wrote:Last I understood Red Bull sold drinks.... Certainly something I can vote with my money on.bhallg2k wrote:In the entertainment business, no one cares how you feel when you watch, only that you watch.
I hope you understand that Client mail software has a select all button and a delete button, no doubt they'll use it. They really dont give a damn about your opinion, or mine, or whoevers opinion.
Ahhh, I originally misread it. I agree with you 100%. This was was particularly boring in the second half because of it. If this was the first race I saw, I doubt I'd tune in again.Cam wrote:Exactly. We'll never know. That opportunity was stolen from us when Mark turned his engine down and coasted while Vettel didn't. I get team orders, really I do, and I agree with them in most instances, especially when a WDC is on the line, but we're two races in for goodness sakes. Trying to figure out which is the best car on this tyre/fuel conservation trip the FIA is on is hard enough, but to then try and second guess results when team orders come into play - makes an already difficult sport to follow - impossible. Imagine a newcomer watching for the first time trying to work this out...... no wonder people are turning off.Blue fellow wrote:Would you have known if the best driver/car had won if Vettel obeyed the team order?Cam wrote:
Just like the bitter taste of Red Bull (which won't be purchased ever again). Although I should know better and that I should expect nothing less - I'm still disgusted. I'm disgusted because I have no idea if the best driver/car won. Mark must be kicking himself for not signing with Ferrari - and taking all the tech IP with him. Not only is Mark a clear number 2 - it's also plainly clear that Dietrich Mateschitz is a liar.
(I'm not saying what Vettel did was right, he's clearly in the wrong)
That isnt a opinion, it is a fact. Have you ever seen any company chance things after a few mails about how things were so wrong? I have not.SilverArrow wrote:And that's your opinion!wesley123 wrote:Last I understood you were talking about Vettel and Webber as part of Red Bull Racing. But oh god! Maybe after all those anger from the fans they will remove Vettel from the Red Bull 4 and 8 packs!theblackangus wrote: Last I understood Red Bull sold drinks.... Certainly something I can vote with my money on.
I hope you understand that Client mail software has a select all button and a delete button, no doubt they'll use it. They really dont give a damn about your opinion, or mine, or whoevers opinion.