Lewis Hamilton driving into the McLaren pits

[Slife]

Would McLaren get an unsafe release fine if (hypothetically) when Hamilton drove out he almost collided with another car ?

[Blue fellow]

It is the responsibility of the competitor to release his car after a pit stop only when it is safe to
do so. The competitor must also provide a means of clearly establishing, when being viewed
from the front of the car, when that car was released.

I would have to say no, since the competitor is refering to the teams, as 2.1 and others reference driver and competitor independant from each other "All drivers, competitors...". And since the Mercedes/Lewis Hamilton is not the car of McLaren they would not be responsible for the release of it. Although I suppose technically Mercedes would not be releasing the car, they would receive the penalty for an incident.

[JimClarkFan]

lol I did wonder if what Lewis did was considered safe, I suspect Lewis would get a drive through if he caused a collision.

[astracrazy]

i think it would be classed as Mercs fault (as the a team including Hamilton)

What we saw this week though was a good application of the punishments in relation to the rules.

for example, was it Verne who was released unsafely? The team got fined and he didn't get a drive thru (or whatever). The stewards recognized it wasn't his fault

If hamilton had crashed then i'd imagine he would of.

[JimClarkFan]

i think it would be classed as Mercs fault (as the a team including Hamilton)

What we saw this week though was a good application of the punishments in relation to the rules.

for example, was it Verne who was released unsafely? The team got fined and he didn't get a drive thru (or whatever). The stewards recognized it wasn't his fault

If hamilton had crashed then i'd imagine he would of.

The difference here though is that the release of Hamilton from the Mclaren pit box had little to do with Mercedes, it wasn't the teams fault that he drove into the Macca pit box, that was all on Hammy.

[astracrazy]

that's what i mean. If he had crashed he would of been given a penalty directly and not something given to the team like torro rosso. Even though the same rule is prob being broken

[Slife]

So hypothetically, would McLaren be obligated to stop Hamilton in their pits if they saw another car driving down the pitlane in order to prevent a crash ?

[Ray]

So hypothetically, would McLaren be obligated to stop Hamilton in their pits if they saw another car driving down the pitlane in order to prevent a crash ?

I would hope they'd be courteous enough to do this, be a real bad move if they just let him plow into another car because he couldn't realistically have an idea it was there. I don't think they'd be obligated to, but I'd lose a lot of respect for them if they just stood there and watched it happen. Especially since he was their star driver for a number of years.

[mnmracer]

So hypothetically, would McLaren be obligated to stop Hamilton in their pits if they saw another car driving down the pitlane in order to prevent a crash ?

I would hope they'd be courteous enough to do this, be a real bad move if they just let him plow into another car because he couldn't realistically have an idea it was there. I don't think they'd be obligated to, but I'd lose a lot of respect for them if they just stood there and watched it happen. Especially since he was their star driver for a number of years.

Though if it would happen, I wouldn't immediately blame McLaren. The team would not be ready for it, so I'd first want to see if they could have in all fairness seen the other car in the pitlane.

Now, since we're on the matter of 'evil pit stuff', what would happen if Lewis and Button were fighting for the lead, and Rosberg turned into the McLaren pitlane and 'stalled his engine' seconds before Button's pit stop?

[Ganxxta]

Now, since we're on the matter of 'evil pit stuff', what would happen if Lewis and Button were fighting for the lead, and Rosberg turned into the McLaren pitlane and 'stalled his engine' seconds before Button's pit stop?

DSQ for that race and a penalty/DSQ for a few next races I would assume.

[NathanOlder]

So hypothetically, would McLaren be obligated to stop Hamilton in their pits if they saw another car driving down the pitlane in order to prevent a crash ?

I would hope they'd be courteous enough to do this, be a real bad move if they just let him plow into another car because he couldn't realistically have an idea it was there. I don't think they'd be obligated to, but I'd lose a lot of respect for them if they just stood there and watched it happen. Especially since he was their star driver for a number of years.

Though if it would happen, I wouldn't immediately blame McLaren. The team would not be ready for it, so I'd first want to see if they could have in all fairness seen the other car in the pitlane.

Now, since we're on the matter of 'evil pit stuff', what would happen if Lewis and Button were fighting for the lead, and Rosberg turned into the McLaren pitlane and 'stalled his engine' seconds before Button's pit stop?

Thats a very interesting question. Surely all the FIA can do is penalise Rosberg. So if it was the final race and it was a decider, like brazil last year, Massa pulled into the Red Bull pit making sure he had Vettel a few seconds behind, then realising his "mistake" stalled it and held his foot on the brake as Red Bull tried to clear the stricken Ferrari. Surely it would just result in Massa with a fine/ban and Alonso witha big trophey

[PlatinumZealot]

Now, since we're on the matter of 'evil pit stuff', what would happen if Lewis and Button were fighting for the lead, and Rosberg turned into the McLaren pitlane and 'stalled his engine' seconds before Button's pit stop?

DSQ for that race and a penalty/DSQ for a few next races I would assume.

The mechanics just push him out the pit stop thats all. If Rosberg resists by using brakes, then all they have to do is carry out Jenson's the pit stop directly behind him. Simples.

[Rob W]

...the mechanics just push him out the pit stop thats all. If Rosberg resists by using brakes, then all they have to do is carry out Jenson's the pit stop directly behind him. Simples.

.... and be hindered by 20+ seconds still.

[Shrieker]

I think it's a huge shame he's done this. It was a terrible mistake and one that likely cost him the chance to lead the race ! That's not how he should repay the team's commitment in him. He should be more focused. It reveals an obvious lack of focus and concentration which unfortunately reminds me of Jacques Villeneuve's 98 season.

[Neno]

I think it's a huge shame he's done this. It was a terrible mistake and one that likely cost him the chance to lead the race ! That's not how he should repay the team's commitment in him. He should be more focused. It reveals an obvious lack of focus and concentration which unfortunately reminds me of Jacques Villeneuve's 98 season.

what, he still having a bit of mclaren blood in himself, mclaren is is big part of his life. it's not easy to shift in new mode that easly, and forget everything before. there is something in boxing terms similar with this, if you are not focused and lack concentration in particular moment, body remember of the moves who you did thousand times before.