Scuderia Ferrari 2013

[Kiril Varbanov]

Points are lost and that's a fact, regardless of the circumstances - at the end of the season when you draw the line nobody cares if you have had debris or stuck DRS actuator.
While luck has always been a factor not just in motorpsort (what a revelation, I know!) SF guys have to make sure to get the strategy right from now on.

[Pilatus]

It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.

Agreed, the sane thing to do would have been to tell Fred to open it out of the last corner just before his next pit stop, that way, if it breaks, you fix it immediately and lose nothing.

As someone mentioned on F138 thread, he would have to be within 1 sec of car in front of him, so...

And there is no DRS activation zone between last corner and pit lane entry.

[StrikeForceF1]

It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.

Hi Bhallg2k....Agreed, the one thing I would say is that had they finished 5th or 6th without use of Drs and than on the last lap or on the slowing down lap they ask Nando to try the Drs and it worked....wouldn't they have got more critiscism for that? Shouldn't they have than checked earlier to see if the Drs flap was working and fight for higher positions? Agreed they could've than done that check just on his in lap for his next scheduled stop,it was a coin toss, a risk taken that didn't work out. Hindsight is 20-20 vision.

Anyway my heart bleeds for the points lost, I have not followed all the lap times and the coverage I get is very poor so I don't know what the relative pace of Nando was compared to Vettel, if there were no problems could he have won the race? or was a second place there for the taking at least. Missed opportunity it was indeed.

On the bright side of things the good thing is come each race weekend, no matter the circuit Ferrari and Nando this year have a car capable of competing at the front and if not for a race victory every weekend, they can at least every weekend fight for the podium, the pace is there, the baseline is good and the qualy pace is not the best but is there or there abouts, Tyre wear is good, the balance seems good, the straight line pace is there despite carrying the needed downforce for the corners, the starts are brilliant.

The championship is not over and they can fight for it but they have to fight very hard from here on in. Nando is capable of it and in 2010 they proved it coming from behind. Last year alot of time and resource went in getting the F2012 up near to speed and making the car drivable, this year the car is good and they can focus that time and resource on developement.

Btw are Ferrari planning a big update as all other teams will be bringing big updates, is it on the schedule for next Gp?

Thanks

[bhall]

I look at it like this: Alonso lost the 2010 World Championship by four points, and he lost the 2012 World Championship by three points. Assuming a ~20 second delta for pitstops, the team's tactical errors this season have cost him as much as ten points in Malaysia and anywhere from six to 11 points in Bahrain. These kinds of (unnecessary) losses hurt in the long run. (Just ask Chris Dyer.)

[Mr.G]

Yes, but last year they have a little bit shitty car. This year when everything will goes right, he will have better Q place and will end higher than last year. The chance for winning WDC is higher. Other teams will have problems too.

[turbof1]

Yes, but last year they have a little bit shitty car. This year when everything will goes right, he will have better Q place and will end higher than last year. The chance for winning WDC is higher. Other teams will have problems too.

You can't rely on that. As a team, you have to assume that the others never make mistakes. That way you can only win it by being simply better then the others.

Just look at mclaren last year.

[Mr.G]

I don't relay on that, hove ever that's my hope

[Forghieri]

The grand old man would say: " There is neither luck nor ill fortune; bad luck is what we didn't know or couldn't forsee, and good luck is what we planned ".

[beelsebob]

The grand old man would say: " There is neither luck nor ill fortune; bad luck is what we didn't know or couldn't forsee, and good luck is what we planned ".

He's wrong – good luck is also what we didn't know or couldn't foresee, it just happens that it helped you, rather than hindered you.

[stefan_]

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[hollus]

Bhall, it is not just greed (although there might be some of it), also math. Last year they could only fight for 4th, 3rd, maybe 2nd sometimes. This year the Ferrari is up to a potential win in every race, and the point bonus for the win is huge, hence justifying larger risks to try and get there.
In Malaysia (I would have stopped him), calling him in in lap 1 would have allowed Alonso to claim 10 - 12 points. He got 0, but if the gamble had paid off, he might have gotten 18 or 25.
In the last race in Bahrain, Alonso finished 8th with 4 points. Had they gone conservative and not tried to use DRS after the first stop, take 20 seconds of his finishing time, and he finishes 3rd or 4th, that's 15 or 12 points. With the risk they took, had DRS worked and allowed him to a) be faster and b) able to clear traffic, 2nd would have been the normal result and 1st reachable, that's 18 or 25 points again.
As it worked out, in both cases the gamble cost Alonso about 10 points over the conservative option, but, had it worked, it would have paid 10 points extra.
I say they got unlucky, not greedy, and that having the 25 points in sight changes the risk-reward assessment. Also don't forget that getting those 25 often would mean Vettel getting 7 points less.

[bhall]

With the potential to fight for a win every race, you tip your cap to the Racing Gods when they say, "but, not this weekend," and you go get 'em next time.

Trying to race without a front wing and then with a DRS malfunction that was repaired with a closed fist are what you do when you don't think you'll ever be that close again.

...methinks.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Rumor: James Allison closing in on move to Ferrari, according to Autosport.

[donskar]

Assuming Allison does come on board, that will be a good move for Ferrari. He has experience with the team and is undoubtedly very strong technically. IMHO, there is one genius in F1 design -- Newey. IMO, the only way to beat him is with a technical team built on multiple strong engineers. Mercedes is taking that approach and it MIGHT be starting to pay off.

[Neno]

Assuming Allison does come on board, that will be a good move for Ferrari. He has experience with the team and is undoubtedly very strong technically. IMHO, there is one genius in F1 design -- Newey. IMO, the only way to beat him is with a technical team built on multiple strong engineers. Mercedes is taking that approach and it MIGHT be starting to pay off.

he already was in ferrari for money, and leaved later because he was not recognized there, or not accepted as he thinked he would, and if he is going again i can't realy imagine why