West wrote:guest wrote:vtec is crude?
no other manu has been able to replicate such a feat, til this year with mitsu copying the vtec design. there are 3 variants of vtec also; dohc vtec, sohc vtec, and 3-stage vtec. thanks only to vtec, honda was able to manu the first production engine to make 100hp/litre. then with 3-stage vtec, they were able to make a 120hp engine capable of getting 50mpg.
VVTi has always been considered better than VTEC and then there's VVTi-L...
100hp/Liter isn't too exciting when there's no torque... and considering the fact that the RX7's 13B produced 250hp/1.3 Liters...
A Ferrari 360 Modena makes around 100 hp/ liter... and the good thing is that there's TORQUE. BTW u probably meant that the S2000 made 120hp/liter... but u still have to rev like hell just to move it.
no, i meant the b16a, the engine i live by. the honda engine that has a near perfect rod length to stroke ratio of 1.736:1. then they developed the b16b which produced 185hp or 115hp/litre, then the itr b18c which produced 205hp from 1.8 litres or 113hp/litre. last came the f20c, or the s2000 engine that produced 240hp/litre.
now, the ferrari 360 modena wasnt widely available to the buying public, was it?
who cares about torque from a 4 cylinder? if you want a 4 cylinder with torque go buy a vw with the deisel engine.
i own a b16a that is capable of 12,000 rpm's given the right cams with proper lift. with the cams i run now, i can liveat 10,000 rpm's all day long without a problem. if your engine makes high rpm hp, then shift so you can keep the engine revvin high...if you like a v8 clunker with a stroke of 5", stay low and grunt.
better yet, why would you talk down on high rpm hp when you are at an f1 website? last i checked f1 engines didnt make much torque either, but they make a shiteload of hp.
and no, i mean litres/1000cc's.