2013 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona

[VIZSLA]

before introducing new hard compound in Barcelona , Pirelli said that they need aproval from all teams, and they got it.
so from there i expect the same thing for future re-designes of tyres![/quote]

I don't know enough of the specifics of that to comment. But I suspect it was a matter of introducing a spec change on short notice that needed the OK.

[oT v1]

After seeing Ferrari just push, i'd liked to have seen Hammy just disregard his damage limitation driving for non-points scoring positions and just go for it!!! At least to experiment, if he ends up completing 6 pit stops then so be it, people will understand and emphathise.

[andartop]

Ferrari "pushing" was going at 90% max - see Alonso comments on post race press conference. It just looked like they were pushing more compared to the others, who were probably going at 80% or something. Massa pushed really hard at the end to try and catch up Kimi after their last pit stops, and the result was that he "burned" his rear tires within 5-6 laps, so the gap increased again, despite having fresher tires.

[VIZSLA]

When they saw Ferrari's strategy today Red Bull tried to emulate it but by then they had missed their chance.
Mercedes never had the option. The way their chassis ate tires on full fuel they'd run out of them before the race ended.

[Hobbs04]

Read it please and say your opinion, i agree with this guy!
http://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/20 ... e-changer/

I agree too. It's not all about aero. Maximizing with what you have been given.
If I was Ferrari I would be walking by Adrian Newey and yelling "what's up with pull rod now!"

[kooleracer]

That problem i have with this F1 formula is the fact that I as a fan have lost the most hardcore race entertainment series. For me F1 was the best drivers driving against the limit and trying to beat each other on merit and pure race craft. IRL was all about top-speed an excitement close racing during the hole race while driving insanely fast with the odd crashes and yellow flag to create a show. NASCAR was the Hollywood of racing, drama on and of the track countless pit-stops and totally random who is going to win the next race. With This F1 we as fans have lost the one series that wasn't a show and isn't about off track fights and countless pit-stops to "create" a show. But now days F1 isn't formula 1 because its synthetic. Its not a race because the drivers aren't fighting each other hard enough its not exciting because the cars and drivers aren't push to the limit. The show part of F1 used to be 3-5 Lap battle between drivers that were fighting for every place and inch of the track. Thats the show element of from my point of view. Everyone can remember the great battles that lasted countless laps because the cars the drivers and the tryes were able to provide for such battles. Schumacher dominated his era but that doesn't equals to boring racing. I really enjoyed the great moves the legend made on track to pass his rivals, because his rivals were not forfeiting there positions but the pure race craft of MSC when he was carving true the field that was the show. We seen MSC win races from p16 not by using DRS or because of tyre management but because of pure pace. The way Vettel carves through the field doesn't even resemble the way MSC did it. Vettel just breezes past without being attacked because his rivals need to save tyres or he opens the magic slot called DRS. You know something is wrong when qualifying for a race in Formula 1 isn't important anymore.....

People who can get excited by this Pirelli dominated race series are to young to remember the real racing times or just joined to sport 3-4 years ago. Trust me F1 was far more exciting then now days. I really am a fan but this "race" today just did it for me, after following every race live for more then 13 years I switched channels and enjoyed me some football. I really hoped they bring back refueling just to make the race faster, i think that a lot of problems would be solved if the cars were lighter during the race. No more tire issues, faster lap times, people fighting on the track because, important of qualifying because of track position. Just give them 60KG fuel cells and let them sort out their on strategy, instead of the tire dictating the race.

[Clew]

The best F1 race victories are won by drivers in their home country. Congrats Nando =D> =D> =D> =D>

[NathanOlder]

Completely pedestrian race.
What's the point with not having refueling when the tyres are so crappy the race is basically in the pitstops?
In fact there was nothing entertaining today. Cars driving around slowly, saving tyres, no late brake overtakes, not racing basically.
Just musical chairs with the strategy. I literally was half asleep through the race with eyes closed. I only needed to hear who was where. No reason to see what's going on on screen, just a bunch of cars going round, no clue who's where in the standings. Why lay eyes on such a thing?
FIA need to do something about this, if i don't need to watch the race; if live timing is good enough or just audio, then there's something really wrong.

100% agree. I was bored for the first time watching F1. It was just so dull and boring. Something has to be done. Moto GP is far more exciting at the moment. I never thought i would have ever said that.

[turbof1]

Completely pedestrian race.
What's the point with not having refueling when the tyres are so crappy the race is basically in the pitstops?
In fact there was nothing entertaining today. Cars driving around slowly, saving tyres, no late brake overtakes, not racing basically.
Just musical chairs with the strategy. I literally was half asleep through the race with eyes closed. I only needed to hear who was where. No reason to see what's going on on screen, just a bunch of cars going round, no clue who's where in the standings. Why lay eyes on such a thing?
FIA need to do something about this, if i don't need to watch the race; if live timing is good enough or just audio, then there's something really wrong.

100% agree. I was bored for the first time watching F1. It was just so dull and boring. Something has to be done. Moto GP is far more exciting at the moment. I never thought i would have ever said that.

I watched last week for the first time motogp (at the request from my dad). I was very suprised that they could run within centimetres of eachother. Questions like "aren't they going to eat their tyres away?" and "how long do they last on those tyres?" popped, which got answered by an odd looking face. Had to say concerning entertainment that was much better (liked the last corner between lorenzo and marquez enormously). overtaking wasn't just overtaking. It were battles between 2 or more riders all race long. Something F1 in lesser extent used to have a long time ago, and desperately needs nowadays.

[Ganxxta]

That Marussia following Vettel for a few laps was hilarious

"Seb don't defend your position"...
"I can't go any slower" - Hamilton

I think that sums it pretty much up.


Anyway, real racing is coming soon, 24h Nürburgring Nordschleife, 24h Le Mans.

Btw. about Le Mans, they managed to attract the Manufacturers by changing rules in a good manner, after Toyota Porsche will join.

[Hail22]

That Marussia following Vettel for a few laps was hilarious

"Seb don't defend your position"...
"I can't go any slower" - Hamilton

I think that sums it pretty much up.


Anyway, real racing is coming soon, 24h Nürburgring Nordschleife, 24h Le Mans.

Btw. about Le Mans, the managed to attract the Manufacturers by changing rules in a good manner, after Toyota Porsche will join.

I shall be in France for the Le Mans 24hr so excited!

[ESPImperium]

That Marussia following Vettel for a few laps was hilarious :lol:

"Seb don't defend your position"...
"I can't go any slower" - Hamilton

I think that sums it pretty much up.


Anyway, real racing is coming soon, 24h Nürburgring Nordschleife, 24h Le Mans.

Btw. about Le Mans, the managed to attract the Manufacturers by changing rules in a good manner, after Toyota Porsche will join.

I shall be in France for the Le Mans 24hr :D so excited!

Vettel and Bianchis times at that point in the race:

Bianchi:
31 1:32.392
32 1:31.232
33 1:29.941
34 1:29.894
35 1:30.337
36 1:30.462
37 1:30.376
38 1:30.972

Vettel:
31 1:29.829
32 1:30.825
33 1:31.439
34 1:29.630
35 1:29.204
36 1:29.757
37 1:30.512
38 1:30.567

Another reason the Pirellis are the defining factor.

[notsofast]

And now for something completely different.

TV obviously doesn't show everything that happens, but as far as I can tell, no one left the track today. The three retirements happened on track and proceeded directly into the pit. No driver appeared to have had an "off".

[SilverArrow10]

They are bound to do something about the tires. They have gone to far this time it is not like before and most people fan and expert alike seem to agree. When one of the two fastest men over one lap says "I cant go any slower" and the other man fastest over one lap and in the fastest car on the grid has the slowest car keeping pace with him for 6 laps something is wrong. (Hamilton and Vettel)

[fiohaa]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctd-hlY6K2M[/youtube]

the fuel burning races from 2006 qualifying is better than now! haha!