qualifying is 80% of the race

[WhiteBlue]

Pirelli era is entertaining only in a wacky races kind of way, the speed isn't so much important, rather who you encounter staggering on a flat or worn out tyres around the next corner is the entertainment.

The damned Pirellis have not only ruined the racing but also the qualifying. No driver actually goes totally on the edge in qualy if he knows he can win from the second row if he conserves the right tyres in qualy. I loved the total balls out qualifying we used to have pre Pirelli.

[mnmracer]

Since when does Red Bull lack race pace? Vettel won two races this year...

>compared to their qualifying pace.

[Maelstrom]

Since when does Red Bull lack race pace? Vettel won two races this year...

>compared to their qualifying pace.

I might agree that Red Bull's one lap pace is greater... but the race pace is lesser due to tyres mostly. They can't push as hard lap after lap, which is true for all the other teams too. But Red Bull certainly can't be put into the same category as Mercedes, not after Vettel dominated so absolutely in Bahrain.

[lebesset]

Pirelli era is entertaining only in a wacky races kind of way, the speed isn't so much important, rather who you encounter staggering on a flat or worn out tyres around the next corner is the entertainment.

The damned Pirellis have not only ruined the racing but also the qualifying. No driver actually goes totally on the edge in qualy if he knows he can win from the second row if he conserves the right tyres in qualy. I loved the total balls out qualifying we used to have pre Pirelli.

yep , much better with the old type tyres

then I could just watch the Q2 and Q3 , and have sunday off to do something else
barcelona 21 out of 22 races from the front row ? the 22nd from 3rd ?

not much excitement in that , is there !

[mnmracer]

Since when does Red Bull lack race pace? Vettel won two races this year...

>compared to their qualifying pace.

I might agree that Red Bull's one lap pace is greater... but the race pace is lesser due to tyres mostly. They can't push as hard lap after lap, which is true for all the other teams too. But Red Bull certainly can't be put into the same category as Mercedes, not after Vettel dominated so absolutely in Bahrain.

They're in the same category as that their race pace can not be deduced from their qualifying pace (in response to the topic). Also, as per the topic, it doesn't matter what affects the race pace, if the race pace is greatly affected by something (like we saw yesterday), you can not say qualifying is 80% of the race.

[coaster]

not much excitement in that , is there !

Those tires are awful, but oh what a great ferrari podium. (in Jerez)

[Glyn]

I have a question.

Why is qualifying not done with race fuel ?

[beelsebob]

I have a question.

Why is qualifying not done with race fuel ?

Because it's not.

[Pierce89]

I have a question.

Why is qualifying not done with race fuel ?

Because people want to see the ultimate lap time

[Paul]

I wouldn't mind qualifying with race fuel if weights were published before the race. That would clear up one reason for race pace differences between certain cars and while making it somewhat more predictable would also make it more understandable, which has its positives.

[beelsebob]

I wouldn't mind qualifying with race fuel if weights were published before the race. That would clear up one reason for race pace differences between certain cars and while making it somewhat more predictable would also make it more understandable, which has its positives.

Heh, predictability is the last thing I want to see.