Infiniti Red Bull Racing 2013

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But really, how reliable is doing that testing the night before qualifying? We see how sensitive the tyres are to atmospheric and track conditions, so I'd be very surprised if they could reliably feed in the correct data into the simulator and have it be accurate enough.

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simulators run static environments as far as i know.

They probably had a wing designed, the data said it produced more downforce, put it in the simulator with driver in the loop and compared the wing for 400 laps and ultimately came to the conclusion that they should send it down to Monaco.
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quite funny how teams invest millions to devlop their cars -but uemi can find awhole second in the simulator by pounding around 400 times...
PR madness at its best....

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marcush. wrote:quite funny how teams invest millions to devlop their cars -but uemi can find awhole second in the simulator by pounding around 400 times...
PR madness at its best....
Honestly, I don't think it's a full second, providing that in Friday sessions your results are not optimal anyway, meaning you add some more on the final setup for Q from the Friday data as well.
Probably some fast prototyping small additions may have been done to the front wing, but I have no good pictures to support that, besides, if I do, I'll post it in the RB9 thread as a direct comparison.

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marcush. wrote:quite funny how teams invest millions to devlop their cars -but uemi can find awhole second in the simulator by pounding around 400 times...
PR madness at its best....
Which kind of backs up what Marko was saying about the Merc test, and surely nothing beats on-track testing.
"When we test for three days, we go a second faster - that's what Adrian Newey [Red Bull's Technical Director] says. It definitely helped them - you can see that they had no tyre problems. That's no accident."
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"When we test for three days, we go a second faster - that's what Adrian Newey [Red Bull's Technical Director] says. It definitely helped them - you can see that they had no tyre problems. That's no accident.
:lol:

Marko quotes are the stuff of legend, and not for good reason's either.
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Cam wrote:
marcush. wrote:quite funny how teams invest millions to devlop their cars -but uemi can find awhole second in the simulator by pounding around 400 times...
PR madness at its best....
Which kind of backs up what Marko was saying about the Merc test, and surely nothing beats on-track testing.
"When we test for three days, we go a second faster - that's what Adrian Newey [Red Bull's Technical Director] says. It definitely helped them - you can see that they had no tyre problems. That's no accident."
Not really, no. It asserts that drivers get used to a track if they drive 400 laps of it. That's no new knowledge.

He's right that it's no accident that they didn't have tyre problems – they didn't have tyre problems because Monaco is the absolute perfect circuit for masking tyre problems. Marko is just shouting PR to try and get the tyres changed so that they can run away with another year.

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Oopsie.

Better get the spare.

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He really doesn't know much about tyres, does he?

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radosav wrote:He really doesn't know much about tyres, does he?
Ironically he was on Pirellis

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Its a conspiracy.

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Its a reflection!

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He was in a crashed in a Ginetta in 2010

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Red Bull Racing officially denied that James Allison is joining them - https://twitter.com/redbullracing/statu ... 6922469378