Scuderia Ferrari 2013

[Hail22]

I was trawling through the pages and was amazed this had not been posted up sooner >.<

Apparently in June Mr. E hinted more European GP's will be axed "due to economic reasons" (more like Europe has had enough of putting cash in Mr. E's daughters purse!) and did not rule out axing Monza...if that's the case, would Ferrari use this as munition to pull out of Formula 1?

http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-news/f ... tid=157221

[donskar]

IF roles, responsibilities, and authority are clearly defined, this is only a good thing. I do not believe you can beat Newey by hiring one "star" designer. You need a team of top quality people working effectively and efficiently. Unfortunately, we're not likely to see any improvement until next season.

He's like an asymptote. He cannot be touched!!

No matter how many guys a team gets, if none of them is on his level then they can't equate to him as a group.
Designing a car is a bout observing and following certain concepts. Newey has been doing this since 2009 on the red bull cars.

So you can't get guys from other teams who haven't designed an equally good car to now suddenly do that because they are working with each other. If you reduce their workload and increase their focus, it does help to make a better car, which we can see with mercedes, but it doesn't change the fact that that individual is not observing the same design philosophy, which follows that all their works put together will not cumulatively lead to a Newey beater.
Their cars just don't have the DNA to put it simply. 100 guys wont get them that. they need a Newey. Allison is no newey.
He doesn't have the cars to prove it.

Is there another Newey out there?

[Chuckjr]

The last team to match Newey was Brawn and the dream team at Ferrari during the Schumacher era.

Newey's track record is phenomenal (championship winning cars at every stop he has made...Williams, Macca, RB) and if he makes a solid chassis base next year to work from like he did with the RB series, it may well be another 3-4 years of almost impossible to beat domination. I really really hope that is not the case.

[donskar]

The last team to match Newey was Brawn and the dream team at Ferrari during the Schumacher era.

Newey's track record is phenomenal (championship winning cars at every stop he has made...Williams, Macca, RB) and if he makes a solid chassis base next year to work from like he did with the RB series, it may well be another 3-4 years of almost impossible to beat domination. I really really hope that is not the case.

RE: the bolded sentences above: The Newey era MUST soon end or the marketing suits who own F1 will demand new rule changes to somehow level the playing field. F1 cannot remain a viable marketing medium without competition. The companies who support F1 through sponsorship do so for "eyeballs" and prestige. No competition = fewer TV viewers = less effective marketing tool = fewer $ aloocated to F1.

Without a high level of competition F1 MIGHT still maintain the "prestige" factor, but with the inexorable creep toward spec cars and the technology in endurance racing that is in doubt as well.

[FoxHound]

I wouldn't be so certain donskar. The law of diminished returns in the most competitive era in F1 has still seen Red bull come up trumps.
Ferrari will be hoping that the technical imbalance has been addressed for 2014, so that may take the power out of Newey's hands somewhat.
New turbo engines, more advanced energy recovery systems and the knock on effect this will have on cars has yet to be determined.
2 teams best placed for this are Ferrari and Mercedes. They build everything themselves.
However, Renault do work intimately closely with red bull, so the above advantage could dissipate.

If Aero remains the decisive factor, Newey penned(pencilled) machines will continue to dominate.

[Hail22]

For those that have missed out, here is the live chat with Massimo Rivola.

http://formula1.ferrari.com/video/live- ... a-budapest

We’ve got a good race pace and we improved a lot on the single lap.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

For those that have missed out, here is the live chat with Massimo Rivola.

http://formula1.ferrari.com/video/live- ... a-budapest

We’ve got a good race pace and we improved a lot on the single lap.

+1 <-- I didn't have time to watch live.

It seems any improvement in one lap pace, sacrificed race pace. The team must get it together by Spa & Monza or risk losing in WCC to both Mercedes and Lotus..

[WhiteBlue]

Alonso's manager was in Red Bulls energy station. Ferrari and Alonso are playing mind games again? They must be desperate.

[Sjamaan]

Alonso's manager was in Red Bulls energy station. Ferrari and Alonso are playing mind games again? They must be desperate.

He was alongside Carlos Sainz Sr. And he also is manager of Carlos Sainz Jr., a Red Bull Driver. 2+2... Nothing to see here.

[WhiteBlue]

Lol, didn't know that. It had the German press in wild speculations. But apart from the PR window dressing Ferrari must be gutted to see all Red Bull, Mercedes and Lotus drivers consistently beating their star driver. Perhaps there is a Voodoo spell on Alonso that he cannot win another championship after the 2007 affair with McLaren. Alonso must be gutted to see Merc getting so competitive as well.

Alonso fell to P3 in the championship where Kimi is now ahead of him and he has Hamilton on his heals with a car that can only get better in Spa and Monza IMO. If Lewis gets it right he could use the two races to catch up to Alonso.

[max_speed]

i feel like quit watching F1 , i have been a loyal ferrari fan since 90's and can't see them in current state. watching fernando loose because of an inferior car makes me sad . i think current ferrari is good for massa only they dnt deserve to have a driver like fernando. every race in past three races and same set of excuses , start of this year ws phenomenal and gave too much hope bt now i must admit championship looks over for ferrari , they shud back to start designing another truck for 2014.

they neither have good car for quali nor the best car than can do a 2 stop. i can't buy the bullshit that team like ferrari is not capable of producing a good car but unable to figure out wht cud be wrong.

[nash929]

i feel like quit watching F1 , i have been a loyal ferrari fan since 90's and can't see them in current state. watching fernando loose because of an inferior car makes me sad . i think current ferrari is good for massa only they dnt deserve to have a driver like fernando. every race in past three races and same set of excuses , start of this year ws phenomenal and gave too much hope bt now i must admit championship looks over for ferrari , they shud back to start designing another truck for 2014.

they neither have good car for quali nor the best car than can do a 2 stop. i can't buy the bullshit that team like ferrari is not capable of producing a good car but unable to figure out wht cud be wrong.

Is this much like when Prost came in during the early 90's? Big difference is that he quit the team early.

[Chuckjr]

Alonso was just playing the odds and it just went the wrong way. Nobody could have seen it coming...I'm sure Fred is as surprised as anyone. He's got some years left, and maybe 2014 will mark a good step forward for Ferrari. I'd be great to see them really competitive again at least. I hope the new wind tunnel updates are industry lead. Is there anyway of knowing if that is the plan, or is the repair to simply try and get it the darn thing working properly?

[donskar]

Autosport.com suggest Red Bull is considering Alonso for next year. Would hate to see him go, and this is probably more F1 mind games/BS, but he certainly deserves a better car. He has given Ferrari far more than they have given him (in terms of a competitive car).

[Kiril Varbanov]

Allison confirmed for Scuderia, will start at September - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109089

Alt. link for those past the free views - http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/scuder ... -structure