Mercedes AMG F1 W04

[turbof1]

Off topic, but I believe the homologating was more about cost savings. A whole set of parts got the same treatment

[Tim.Wright]

Off topic, but I believe the homologating was more about cost savings. A whole set of parts got the same treatment

I think thats right. The aero elements were outlawed by mandating a homogeneous material for the wheel and specifying a maximum side view area.

[GrandAxe]

Merc runs front IR sensors during the race as well. They probably run rear ones as well (since that's where their problem is allegedly) but we wouldn't know since they are mounted into the floor.

Thanks for that.

[turbof1]

Sorry for continued going off topic; just that this bothers me:
Apperently the wheel rims aren't homologated anymore. They were part of the sporting regulations back in 2010:
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... 6-2010.pdf

28.7 a) lists all the parts being homologated.

But in the current rules, 28.7 is scrapped. Teams have been altering their chassis design mid season (which was part of 28.7 a) in 2010), so I think it is allowable to change wheel design too. I am not sure though. This set of rules left as silently as it came in.

[SectorOne]

Yea now you can change them mid-season. Mercedes changed the spoke geometry a few races ago i believe.


Edit: Why did Mercedes not run the monkey seat in Hungary race? drag should not be much of an issue there and if it helps create more rear downforce they could turn up the front wing a notch perhaps and benefit from more total downforce?

[ringo]

Any news on what happened to rosberg engine during the Hungarian gp?

[beelsebob]

Any news on what happened to rosberg engine during the Hungarian gp?

Pretty sure "it went on fire" is the answer.

This happens to F1 engines now and again, usually when a piston decides to eject itself from the engine block, and sprays oil everywhere.

[smlbstcbr]

Any news on what happened to rosberg engine during the Hungarian gp?

No, it is likely we won't get to know what happened, though Nico seemed to have problems during the formation lap as his engineer told him the engine was overheating. Perhaps an obstruction in the radiators?

[beelsebob]

Any news on what happened to rosberg engine during the Hungarian gp?

No, it is likely we won't get to know what happened, though Nico seemed to have problems during the formation lap as his engineer told him the engine was overheating. Perhaps an obstruction in the radiators?

No, Brawn said in an interview after the race that the engine was well within its operating window for temperature, and that they couldn't explain the failure at the time. That was why they asked hamilton to save even more time – just to be extra kind to the engine, in case there was some failure mode they didn't know about.

All the drivers will have struggled with overheating on the way to the grid. Those queueing up at the front, more so than most.

[FoxHound]

Fuel save maps can cause engines to expire just as easily.
Less fuel use can increase the temperature.

[Mika1]

Yea now you can change them mid-season. Mercedes changed the spoke geometry a few races ago i believe.


Edit: Why did Mercedes not run the monkey seat in Hungary race? drag should not be much of an issue there and if it helps create more rear downforce they could turn up the front wing a notch perhaps and benefit from more total downforce?

They didn't need more rear downforce. If so, they would have used it.

[turbof1]

I think there is not a single team out there that says "I have enough rear downforce". There have to be other reasons for not using a monkey seat. Perhaps drag.

[Huntresa]

Are people still on the belief that monkey seats produce that much downforce and is used to produce downforce as its main purpose for being there ?

[Holm86]

Are people still on the belief that monkey seats produce that much downforce and is used to produce downforce as its main purpose for being there ?

No it's main purpose is to look cool of course. We all know that is the most important thing in F1.

I don't think anyone believes it produces a ton of downforce on its own. But it does produce some. And it helps with extracting air form the diffuser which again also gives more downforce.

But its lift/drag coefficient is not that good. Which means it produces a relative large amount of drag. That's why its used on high downforce tracks. Where every little bit helps and speed isn't the main factor.

[turbof1]

Question though remains how much a monkey seat would cost you in km/h top speed. It can't be more then 2-3 km/h.