2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

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Monaco comes off the top of my head.. That's the only one I remember.

EDIT Oh yeah Silverstone and Nurburgring as well, tyre explosions and the Marussia sliding backwards respectively.

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Ahh yes now i remember, Red bull´s got past Hamilton there.
Was Silverstone really a safety car?
thanks, yea remember Germany now.
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SectorOne wrote:Ahh yes now i remember, Red bull´s got past Hamilton there.
Was Silverstone really a safety car?
thanks, yea remember Germany now.
well, 4 explosions are more than enough :P

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SectorOne wrote:PPO for guys outside top 10 might do wonders around here i think.
I'm not sure - that would leave you without track position in the final stint. (because they'd always be on quicker or fresher tyres than you when building up to that last stint) - and leaving you having to overtake in a circuit like Singapore.
For the guys inside top 10 i think a standard OPP is the best option. Possibly someone can squeeze out the middle stint and slap on some Options near the end.
Mr Alcatraz wrote:I see OPO as an alternative strategy, which may be useful for a team that manages its tires well enough to finish the race with a late-ish second stop. I suspect that it may be an option made on the fly, depending on track position. Hard to say but it might actually make the racing throughout the field interesting, although that may be asking too much at Singapore. :?
I'm absolutely convinced that you can get OPO to finish the race. But with such heat and so many traction zones in Singapore - I'm also convinced that OPP is far superior as they will trade of the increased tyre life for increased pace. Two option stints will have to be managed a LOT. Don't forget these supersofts are softer than last year's supersofts - which only lasted 10 laps anyway. Button did the longest stint at about 13 on LAST YEAR's supersofts. And even on last year's supersofts, don't forget some teams had to do a 3-stop strategy.

It's all well and good "extending" "eking" "stretching" tyre life for longer stints - but don't forget that while you're doing that, your rival is undercutting you massively (as you are on the dying laps of your rubber, while his has just come up to temperature nicely)
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raymondu999 wrote:
SectorOne wrote:PPO for guys outside top 10 might do wonders around here i think.
I'm not sure - that would leave you without track position in the final stint. (because they'd always be on quicker or fresher tyres than you when building up to that last stint) - and leaving you having to overtake in a circuit like Singapore.
Agreed but i think Kubica showed you can just sail past people given you have the tire under you.
It´s a lot like Monaco but in many ways it´s not. Overtakes are far more of a threat there then Hungary or Monaco.
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SectorOne wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:
SectorOne wrote:PPO for guys outside top 10 might do wonders around here i think.
I'm not sure - that would leave you without track position in the final stint. (because they'd always be on quicker or fresher tyres than you when building up to that last stint) - and leaving you having to overtake in a circuit like Singapore.
Agreed but i think Kubica showed you can just sail past people given you have the tire under you.
It´s a lot like Monaco but in many ways it´s not. Overtakes are far more of a threat there then Hungary or Monaco.
That, and it ought to be easier to get past now that the retarded chicaine is less retarded. It's a much less tight turn in, it would be possible to go a bit wide and give an overtaker some room (or to try and pass round the outside).

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It's all a moot discussion, in a way - because Singapore is always riddled with safety cars. If a safety car pops up just bang on your pit stop timing, you've won the lottery. If it comes in mid-stint for you then... hmmph. Look at Germany for example. Grosjean was, to my data's reckoning, on for a 2-stop, but the safety car screwed him over that way, as it forced him onto a 3-stop.
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raymondu999 wrote:It's all a moot discussion, in a way - because Singapore is always riddled with safety cars. If a safety car pops up just bang on your pit stop timing, you've won the lottery. If it comes in mid-stint for you then... hmmph. Look at Germany for example. Grosjean was, to my data's reckoning, on for a 2-stop, but the safety car screwed him over that way, as it forced him onto a 3-stop.
To be fair though, most of the safety cars tend to come because of the now non-existent retarded chicaine.

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Any chance of rain here? Whats the forcast?

Still waiting for some rain here

Edit: reading 60% chance

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astracrazy wrote:Any chance of rain here? Whats the forcast?

Still waiting for some rain here
no predication will be accurate, but based on weather for the past 2 weeks, there is a very high chance of rain over the weekend. But in Singapore when it rains, it really pour and dont see any chance of the race to continue if it really rain.

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beelsebob wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:It's all a moot discussion, in a way - because Singapore is always riddled with safety cars. If a safety car pops up just bang on your pit stop timing, you've won the lottery. If it comes in mid-stint for you then... hmmph. Look at Germany for example. Grosjean was, to my data's reckoning, on for a 2-stop, but the safety car screwed him over that way, as it forced him onto a 3-stop.
To be fair though, most of the safety cars tend to come because of the now non-existent retarded chicaine.
Only Raikkonen in 08?
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While Singapore has heavy rains they tend to be during the day, I don't think we've had one wet race since this event started. We've had damp tracks during the practice sessions but it's usually so warm there that the track dries relatively quickly even at night. We will probably see one or two damp tracked practice sessions, I don't think it will rain during qualifying or the race. That's just my two cents.
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Brembo brake performance video for Singapore:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chTBg0aBrok[/youtube]

Lap of Marina Bay with Pastor Maldonado 2012 - (demonstrating the amount of bumps are on this smooth street circuit)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qYwC2qov44[/youtube]
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I think Singapore GP is going to be a physically and mentally challenging for the rookies. I expect a safety car weekend

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985