The weight limits need changed.

[Gerhardsa]

I think to combat something like this happening a new regulation should be made whereby the team has to place ballast under the seat of the driver equal to 85kg minus the weight of the driver. Therefore the extra weight will be in that area regardless if the driver weighs 60kg or 85kg.

Like we do with the F400 Enduro Karing series over here! makes for a level playing field regarding weight.

[iotar__]

[Since the discussion went on bizarre tangent of questionable claims about human body] some copy and pasting, as expected they're not planning to do anything soon , M. Whitmarsh:
""We have to find a solution, but I doubt we will find one in the next few weeks or months,"

"But sadly, the way it has worked out means the heavier drivers will be less attractive. It has happened by accident.
"We have raised the minimum weight but the new powertrains are heavier than people expected and now have a situation where heavier drivers could be a disadvantage."
Ok, and earlier you didn't know that could happen ? Kilograms - too complicated for F1 geniuses.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/895 ... Hulkenberg

[Kiril Varbanov]

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+1 for that post, but seriously dude, where do you find all that time? Is that parallel universe with 30-34 hours per day?
The technical regulations must be the entry point for the forum - prepare a poll, if you can't answer 10 questions in 3 minutes - try harder next time.

Finally, I read back the OP. Again, I'm against any excessively low weight limits. Let the talents rise. Both mentally and vertically. Or sideways, if you wish.

[bhall]

2014 driver development program revealed!

[Blanchimont]

SlimFast contains to much calories, Marjorie knows. But what about dust?

[feni_remmen]

Hey guys.sorry if I got that wrong regarding 80kg, Re difference including driver. I felt like I was sure, but as its been bout 2010 since I would read the regs, I guess I confused ideas and proposals with facts. Doesn't change my position on this, just bemuses me more that it dragged on. Anyway, sorry for the misinformation, hopefully doesn't undermine my cred too much, re proposals! Live laugh learn.

[iotar__]

I don't understand why they need to discuss it again. It can't be really that difficult. We are changing minimum weight by such amount (it happened right?) but if weight of powertrain increases we automatically agree to increase it by amount measured this way ... [big brains come up with a formula]. Without further voting, discussions, waste of time and oxygen, etc.

It can't work like that because as always some teams may gain and some may lose, so let's trade, you want this, we want that.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Well, at least Hulk will be OK to go to Lotus - they are not concerned by his weight. Or anyone else's weight - http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12473 ... k-for-2014

[jknights]

If the FIA are serious about producing high quality races where there is more overtaking but still safe driving conditions then surely to increase the total weight for car + driver to say 700kg would be the answer and all ballast (as Arterius said) must be located under or behind the driver's seat.

Whilst I understand the need for driver safety I also question the extensive use of car telemetry and the ability of the pit team to influence the race.
Surely if a tyre is overused then it will puncture/rupture so it is down to the driver to monitor the tyre state and if necessary to come in and get a new set of tyres. Of course this then requires the rules to be changed to allow large numbers of tyre sets to be available.

Also if an engine or gearbox is having a problem the driver should be able to assess this and decide a course of action rather than the pit crew telling them to nurse the gearbox by shortchanging, etc.

This however changes F1 from a team sport into an individual car/driver sport.

[xpensive]

What if the FIA stipulates all ballast must be placed above the driver's shoulders, wouldn't that be an incentive to hire fat drivers?

[bdr529]

It's nice to read that it's been my 65 kg holding my back all along, and not my lack of talent

next years group photo

[GitanesBlondes]

What if the FIA stipulates all ballast must be placed above the driver's shoulders, wouldn't that be an incentive to hire fat drivers?

Edit:

[flynfrog]

in solar car racing we had a driver min weight rule but no car min weight. The weight had be placed near the center of mass of the driver. Maybe something as simple as an FIA spec volume with relation to the steering wheel or something along those lines.

[Tim.Wright]

A very simple solution would be to include the seat in the driver's weight. As it is now the drivers weight already includes race suit, fireproof underwear, helmet, hans device and radio earpieces. The seat are easily removable too with a quick release system mandated for rescue purposes.

[Traction]

Interesting article from James Allen regarding Hulkenbergs weight saga..it explains quite clearly the impact that the new engines will be having on the weight of the cars and hence the importance of the drivers weight.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/10/i ... -progress/