Scuderia Ferrari 2013

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Ferrari needs one man to get back in winning days. and his name is Ross Brawn...
The biggest mistake was letting Ross leave the team. He is in every aspect better than Domenicalli.
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f1316 wrote:A thought that just occurred to me: if Ross brawn does leave Mercedes, I think he'd be good as team principal for Ferrari (remembering that that wasn't his role before)


I like domenicali, but the team needs to do better and the guy in the top job is ultimately responsible for lack of success. Just a thought.
Ross Brawn + James Allison = Better than average

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Large and interesting interview with Stefano D - http://motor.as.com/motor/2013/10/15/fo ... 64275.html

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Large and interesting interview with Stefano D - http://motor.as.com/motor/2013/10/15/fo ... 64275.html
So according to him, if they fire him , nothing will improve in the team.....

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Gary Anderson wrote:If I ran Ferrari and was paying Alonso however many millions of euros a year he is getting, the last thing he would be doing would be sitting in the garage for half of the last session before qualifying when you know you are lacking pace.

Ferrari do that every single race weekend and I would have to question whether they have any structural management.
That is Alonso's biggest problem. When he doesn't see any structural management, he starts to be the manager, and having a driver do that is the worst place a team can be.

I talk to a lot of people and some of the stuff I have heard about Ferrari and how that team functions is absurd for an outfit of that standing. Something has to change there pretty soon if they are to be the team we all think they should be.
Ouch.

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munudeges wrote:
Gary Anderson wrote:If I ran Ferrari and was paying Alonso however many millions of euros a year he is getting, the last thing he would be doing would be sitting in the garage for half of the last session before qualifying when you know you are lacking pace.

Ferrari do that every single race weekend and I would have to question whether they have any structural management.
That is Alonso's biggest problem. When he doesn't see any structural management, he starts to be the manager, and having a driver do that is the worst place a team can be.

I talk to a lot of people and some of the stuff I have heard about Ferrari and how that team functions is absurd for an outfit of that standing. Something has to change there pretty soon if they are to be the team we all think they should be.
Ouch.
While it is most likely an unpopular opinion, what Gary Anderson is saying is one of the big reasons why I would not be opposed to seeing Flavio Briatore as team principal at Ferrari as unlikely as it is to happen. I don't think Domenicali is the right guy for that job, and they are in serious need of someone who is going to instill order within the team.
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For all we know it could be Ross Brawn, his future team is currently up in the air (Macca, Ferrari etc).

What we do know is that its more than likely that Stefano will be given his marching orders before next years winter tests. But its up to Luca di Monte to find the "best" candidate that will increase productivity, morale and allow a more "creative" design philosophy rather than the current "conservative" mindset.
If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari.

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Domenicali is Montezemolo's right-hand man; I don't think he's going anywhere.

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GitanesBlondes wrote:While it is most likely an unpopular opinion, what Gary Anderson is saying is one of the big reasons why I would not be opposed to seeing Flavio Briatore as team principal at Ferrari as unlikely as it is to happen.
That's what I was thinking when I read it. It's all very well having more competent people in like James Allison but it all has to come from the top down. Come to think of it the wheels started to come off and all the political crap started after Jean Todt left.

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I've been wondering the exact this for a while now. I simply do not understand, even with my very very best efforts, why Alonso is sitting out half of FP1 and FP3. It's just unbelievable to see a driving waiting until halfway into FP1 to do a few timed laps. Even if they have new parts to test, they just don't run, for whatever reason.

Also, as for Fry, he actually still reports directly to Domenicali, so he's not strictly demoted. The team seem to ackowledge however that the job was just too much for one person, so they've split it up, allowing each guy to focus on what they do best.

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f1universe wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:Large and interesting interview with Stefano D - http://motor.as.com/motor/2013/10/15/fo ... 64275.html
So according to him, if they fire him , nothing will improve in the team.....
All he said/meant was that firing him won't instantly make the team competitive. They will still face the same issues that he's dealing with.

Domenicali admitted during the interview that they still don't 100% understand the aerodynamic effect of the exhaust. This baffles me, but I believe him. He says they have improved but have not caught up with the others.

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Il radiatore and some other stuff in Italian by the dear friend Simone Resta: Ferrari explains technology aspects - http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/explor ... y-part-iii

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Domenicali admitted during the interview that they still don't 100% understand the aerodynamic effect of the exhaust. This baffles me....
It baffles me considering that they've had three years to get research and development up and running in that area.

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Tomba wrote:Also, as for Fry, he actually still reports directly to Domenicali, so he's not strictly demoted. The team seem to ackowledge however that the job was just too much for one person, so they've split it up, allowing each guy to focus on what they do best.
He can report to God himself if he wants to but he won't be involved in the design of another Ferrari. He's been sidelined, it's as simple as that. The job of technical director and where the buck stops with the car is down to one person and one person only. Newey manages it. Mike Gascoyne has managed it. James Key manages it. James Allison managed it. Ferrari have a political mess.