Adrian Sutil has secured a deal with Sauber to ensure himself a race seat for 2014. He will effectively make the inverse move of Nico Hulkenberg who joined Force India following his departure at Sauber.
Yes, he's being outdriven by Bottas. But the issue at hand was whether or not he was still binning the car.Jonnycraig wrote:He's just been thoroughly out driven by his rookie teammate.raymondu999 wrote:I actually think Maldonado has matured quite a bit now. He hasn't binned the car that often this year
. I missed the part where Maldonado is out-driven by a team-mate, Bottas is very good but 1. it didn't happen 2. I wouldn't draw conclusions from the season of fighting for 14-16. If Lotus are considering Maldo budget hole after overpaying Raikkonen must be really big, surprise, surprise. Hulkenberg is fatter, slower(?), expensive but more reliable and thus slightly better sporting choice. Maybe they don't have a choice?While true i need to see him in a fast car where he is actually trying to overtake people before being completely sure of that.raymondu999 wrote:I actually think Maldonado has matured quite a bit now. He hasn't binned the car that often this year
-moments.Yyyyyyyyyawn..........iotar__ wrote:I was looking for a drive for Hulkenberg before it was cool.......If Lotus are considering Maldo budget hole after overpaying Raikkonen must be really big, surprise, surprise. Hulkenberg is fatter, slower(?), expensive but more reliable and thus slightly better sporting choice. Maybe they don't have a choice?
That in itself is hardly a ringing endorsement. You or I could manage to get an F1 car around the majority of tracks with enough coaching, we'd just be embarrassed by everyone else on track.raymondu999 wrote:Yes, he's being outdriven by Bottas. But the issue at hand was whether or not he was still binning the car.Jonnycraig wrote:He's just been thoroughly out driven by his rookie teammate.raymondu999 wrote:I actually think Maldonado has matured quite a bit now. He hasn't binned the car that often this year
The saying goes there are no slow drivers in F1 as even the slow drivers are quite fast in general.ringo wrote:Maldonado is a good enough driver. I don't think there are really any bad drivers in F1.
What i can say though, is that Maldonado has the sport in his hands. His move will determine where the pieces fall.
Alguashari is nowhere near Maldonado in terms of talent. We need to remember that Pastor is a race winner, on merrit.
He's also pretty good on street circuits and qualifying. Alguashari hasn't done anythin in my point of view to justify that he's better than Pastor, and i couldn't care less about personality or appearance. Pastor is maybe not likable or as media friendly but his speed can be put to use.
Hulk will get the Lotus seat hopefully; he deserves it. Pastor would work nicely in Di Resta's seat. Di Resta needs to leave the sport, he's a prima dona who thinks he's too good to be in mid pack car. While at the same time he can't get any decent results. He's always blaming the team as well so i don't think he's good to have around in the long run. Pastor would be a nice addition to the team.
The assumption is it was Maldonado's decision to leave not Williams's to let him go. If that's the case I find it strange to do it before signing contract with a better team. 2014 is unknown, Lotus can be a better option but Sauber or Force India might not be. For me it would be interesting to see Maldonado in FI against Di Resta to check qualifying speed of the latter.GitanesBlondes wrote:The saying goes there are no slow drivers in F1 as even the slow drivers are quite fast in general.ringo wrote:Maldonado is a good enough driver. I don't think there are really any bad drivers in F1.
What i can say though, is that Maldonado has the sport in his hands. His move will determine where the pieces fall.
Alguashari is nowhere near Maldonado in terms of talent. We need to remember that Pastor is a race winner, on merrit.
He's also pretty good on street circuits and qualifying. Alguashari hasn't done anythin in my point of view to justify that he's better than Pastor, and i couldn't care less about personality or appearance. Pastor is maybe not likable or as media friendly but his speed can be put to use.
Hulk will get the Lotus seat hopefully; he deserves it. Pastor would work nicely in Di Resta's seat. Di Resta needs to leave the sport, he's a prima dona who thinks he's too good to be in mid pack car. While at the same time he can't get any decent results. He's always blaming the team as well so i don't think he's good to have around in the long run. Pastor would be a nice addition to the team.
With that said, it's more of a case of varying degrees of slowness relative to the competition on the grid. But teammate comparisons are the only thing that really matters at the end of the day.
Maldonado outside of his sponsorship brings little value to any F1 team as Williams has unfortunately found out. While the FW-35 is a generally poor car compared to the 34, that he isn't simply thrashing his rookie teammate tells you everything that you need to know about Maldonado's overall ability. I know it is not fun sitting in the back of the midfield, but he should have sucked it up and focused on beating his teammate in qualifying and the races instead of whining about being in an uncompetitive car. It would have shown --to me anyway-- that he showed some maturation from 2012, and is capable of acting like a professional driver in spite of being at significant disadvantage with the car.
I can only hope Hulkenberg grabs that Lotus seat over Maldonado as he is far more deserving, and makes the most out of his circumstances when given to him, something Maldonado has not done very well.
Di Resta is a prima dona and Maldonado isn't? I must be watching a different series to you!ringo wrote:Maldonado is a good enough driver. I don't think there are really any bad drivers in F1.
What i can say though, is that Maldonado has the sport in his hands. His move will determine where the pieces fall.
Alguashari is nowhere near Maldonado in terms of talent. We need to remember that Pastor is a race winner, on merrit.
He's also pretty good on street circuits and qualifying. Alguashari hasn't done anythin in my point of view to justify that he's better than Pastor, and i couldn't care less about personality or appearance. Pastor is maybe not likable or as media friendly but his speed can be put to use.
Hulk will get the Lotus seat hopefully; he deserves it. Pastor would work nicely in Di Resta's seat. Di Resta needs to leave the sport, he's a prima dona who thinks he's too good to be in mid pack car. While at the same time he can't get any decent results. He's always blaming the team as well so i don't think he's good to have around in the long run. Pastor would be a nice addition to the team.
