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Which would you like them to display, pedal travel, or line pressure? If you want to show line pressure, do you show front or rear? And even if you do know line pressure, it doesn't relate directly to braking force at the contact patch. Even setting aside the tire, it varies based on configuration of the MCs, the line, the caliper, the pads and rotor compound, etc. Which also means that two drivers exerting the exact same braking torque would show different values of pressure. Not to mention of course that if you don't show both circuits, every adjustment of brake bias changes the usefulness of the value being shown. Meanwhile, pedal travel has even less of a direct correlation to braking torque.SectorOne wrote:And also, how hard can it be to get a proper meter for the braking instead of an on/off switch.
The braking is an incredibly interesting area when discussing driving styles and what not so i would love to see that in.
Do you mean more precise or more accurate?SatchelCharge wrote:Even if the bar is more accurate than that, it's not like it will be telling us exactly how many litres/kg of fuel are in the car.Lycoming wrote:Not if you make the fuel level infographic like old cell phone battery indicators with the 3 segments.
Pedal travel. It allows you to see the modulation of the brakes.Lycoming wrote:Which would you like them to display, pedal travel, or line pressure? If you want to show line pressure, do you show front or rear? And even if you do know line pressure, it doesn't relate directly to braking force at the contact patch. Even setting aside the tire, it varies based on configuration of the MCs, the line, the caliper, the pads and rotor compound, etc. Which also means that two drivers exerting the exact same braking torque would show different values of pressure. Not to mention of course that if you don't show both circuits, every adjustment of brake bias changes the usefulness of the value being shown. Meanwhile, pedal travel has even less of a direct correlation to braking torque.
A sim is different because in a computer, x level of pressure or pedal travel has to equal y force, and it's something the programmers know, and the same for everyone. The break in an F1 car will more than likely not move very much, if at all, so very little useful information can be gotten it from. This is further complicated by pedal travel doesn't equal the breaking force, it goes by the line pressure.SectorOne wrote:Pedal travel. It allows you to see the modulation of the brakes.Lycoming wrote:Which would you like them to display, pedal travel, or line pressure? If you want to show line pressure, do you show front or rear? And even if you do know line pressure, it doesn't relate directly to braking force at the contact patch. Even setting aside the tire, it varies based on configuration of the MCs, the line, the caliper, the pads and rotor compound, etc. Which also means that two drivers exerting the exact same braking torque would show different values of pressure. Not to mention of course that if you don't show both circuits, every adjustment of brake bias changes the usefulness of the value being shown. Meanwhile, pedal travel has even less of a direct correlation to braking torque.
Even though we know how the brakes are used in a straight braking zone we can´t really see what the driver does mid-corner other then knowing if he´s on it or not.
It´s used in every sim you can think of and many hardcore simmers run fully hydralic setups.
Works brilliant to see how someone is using the brakes.
Stick a pot or hall sensor on that and you are good to go.
Maybe you should use a strain gage. My understanding is that on these kinds of cars, the brake pedal basically doesn't move.SectorOne wrote:Stick a pot or hall sensor on that and you are good to go.
That is if it doesn´t move much at all.Cold Fussion wrote:The break in an F1 car will more than likely not move very much, if at all, so very little useful information can be gotten it from.
in what way will it not? If all the cars start with the same fuel level then half is half....SatchelCharge wrote:Even if the bar is more accurate than that, it's not like it will be telling us exactly how many litres/kg of fuel are in the car.Lycoming wrote:Not if you make the fuel level infographic like old cell phone battery indicators with the 3 segments.
