Liveries in winter testing

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Liveries in winter testing

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In other series, you often see cars being either all black or even with some checkered/swirly paint patterns between black and white to confuse the eyes. Would this not be a more effective solution than all the drapes and covers that they run to the car after every test session?
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Sponsor less liveries used to be normal just a few seasons ago but $$$$$ is king so now sponsors get coverage year round. To teams there's no point in missing on sponsorship money by running a blank canvas while millions are watching footage and images of the cars during testing.

Search for the Ferrari from 2006 during preseason testing.
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I guess honda did that in 2006?
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mx_tifoso wrote:Sponsor less liveries used to be normal just a few seasons ago but $$$$$ is king so now sponsors get coverage year round. To teams there's no point in missing on sponsorship money by running a blank canvas while millions are watching footage and images of the cars during testing.

Search for the Ferrari from 2006 during preseason testing.

You'd be correct Tifoso:

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Only the Prancing horse was shown on the vehicle.
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Back then testing was unrestricted and when teams tested it was often top secret. Or as secret as possible. I guess thats why they often had no sponsors and was colored in other colors.

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Holm86 wrote:Back then testing was unrestricted and when teams tested it was often top secret. Or as secret as possible. I guess thats why they often had no sponsors and was colored in other colors.
Yes, really hard to see it's a Ferrari.

I think they didn't paint it because it saved money and the livery would have to be redone for a race or if the part didn't work the livery was applied for notthing. ;)
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and they didn't get the amount of attention now [because when unlimited testing was allowed, there was hardly any attention from the media, now with restricted testing media is getting their hands on it], so sponsors had no interest.
now, with tv coverage and all media attention, they'll be keen on putting sponsors on it.
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AnthonyG wrote:
Holm86 wrote:Back then testing was unrestricted and when teams tested it was often top secret. Or as secret as possible. I guess thats why they often had no sponsors and was colored in other colors.
Yes, really hard to see it's a Ferrari.

I think they didn't paint it because it saved money and the livery would have to be redone for a race or if the part didn't work the livery was applied for notthing. ;)
I wasnt talking about the specific Ferrari. I meant those who painted their cars black or like McLaren sometimes painted their cars orange when testing.

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this jordan was tested without paint
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fw14b model or the pre season testing car, ive not seen photos of it in real life though. Anyone got one?
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If engine manufacturers are complaining about not getting enough exposure, why not regulate it that during all testing (not race weekends), the cars must run 'testing' liveries representing the engine manufacturer primarily, and also the chassis constructor?

The Red Bull, for instance, would be yellow instead of blue, the bull logo on the airbox would be black and the red bull lettering on the front wings would be in black and white instead. I don't know how Infinity would fit into it (that's already renault-nissan politics' problem, so I'll leave it to them).

EDIT: something like this (it's hard to make dark blue into gloss yellow, so just pretend or something)

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This way, during testing, Renault would have 6 (?) yellow cars on track - GREAT for them, Ferrari would have a bunch of red cars, and Mercedes would have a gaggle of silver cars. It'd also have the added bonus of being able to show the cars off during testing, and still have them looking new and possibly surprising when they turn up for round one in their proper colours.

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that design is absolutely INSANELY GORGEOUS :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: =D> =D>

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that red bull looks sexy. you should send it to them lol

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Tried it for some other cars (warning: very quick 'shoops ahead)

Williams would now be black, white and silver during testing days, reflecting their use of Mercedes engines (maybe they would be AMG or HWA branded on the Williams?)

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Sauber would have to have some red because they're Ferrari customers (I think not enough was done to publicize this since they've been using Ferrari engines), and the traditional Sauber colours, which are...silver? I've got no idea.

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Another thing I'd like to have is more alternate liveries - see them Sauber one above. They're both the same pattern, but with different colour locations. This would make it much easier to tell drivers apart, while using up 0% sponsor room, making the teams more distinctive and being generally better than what there is now in every way.

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Bazza wrote:Another thing I'd like to have is more alternate liveries - see them Sauber one above. They're both the same pattern, but with different colour locations. This would make it much easier to tell drivers apart, while using up 0% sponsor room, making the teams more distinctive and being generally better than what there is now in every way.
Sadly, the sporting regulations specify that each car of the same team must have the same livery.
That was an important problem for BAR in 1999 when they planned to run one Lucky Strike and one 555 livery, but in the end came up with a car that had a different livery on the left hand side and on the right hand side.

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I'm suggesting a change to that rule, in so far as the both cars must have the same livery pattern, but alternating or slightly different colours, but the same sponsors and positioning of logos. And to be honest, having symmetrical (or close to) liveries really is much better looking than a bunch of Harvey Two-Face cars (unless they got WB sponsorship, then it'd be cool).

The current regs would forbid what Audi does for it's Le Mans cars, right (silver with red accents for one car, and yellow accents for another car)? That's pretty dumb.