2014 Testing - Jerez 28-31 Jan

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Gaz. wrote:
Helios wrote:# of laps for each car on Day 3 so far

1. Mercedes AMG Petronas: 45 Laps
2. McLaren Mercedes: 40 Laps
3. Scuderia Ferrari: 32 Laps
4. Sauber: 28 Laps
5. Williams: 24 Laps
6. Toro Rosso: 22 Laps
7. Caterham: 8 Laps
8. Red Bull: 3 Laps
Recovery truck: two laps.
The tractor which was on track yesterday might have made more laps than the Red Bull too.
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Mr.G wrote:There is a rumor that FIA will check again Mercedes and RedBull noses as they are too fragile.
I understand why Mercedes but why Red Bull, flexing or made out of gum again ;-) ?

Thread went downhill with predictions no one would bet a penny on #-o . For those counting laps - remember who were the champions of mileage before 2009 season, not Brawn or Red Bull but "favourites" Ferrari and BMW.

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iotar__ wrote:
Mr.G wrote:There is a rumor that FIA will check again Mercedes and RedBull noses as they are too fragile.
I understand why Mercedes but why Red Bull, flexing or made out of gum again ;-) ?
It seems that the nose meets the dimensional criteria but by design, places the meat of the impact absorbing structure much higher than the tip. They're concerned that the tip will just collapse and then the car will launch over the obstruction.

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Phil wrote:
FoxHound wrote:Why would Vettel run if it is Ricciardo's designated test day?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I find it a bit strange that Vettel has left "home" and isn't even sticking around anymore. IMO - these testing days are crucial for any team, and as a participant of the team and as a driver, any progress or information that could be learned would be quite important. The fact that he has just left, well, I find it a bit odd at the very least... but maybe I'm reading too much into it?
I think you are. I doubt Vettel or any other Renault-driver can be of a big use for the current problems. These are complex technical issues, so I doubt a driver is able to solve them. The only thing he can do is give feedback, but since they're barely running, there isn't a lot of feedback to give :)
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"@tedkravitz: Lots of drilling in RB pit. Seems turbo and battery control unit packaging is too tight, not a Renault prob http://t.co/oP9HK0OZX4"

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xDama wrote:
Phil wrote:I think you are. I doubt Vettel or any other Renault-driver can be of a big use for the current problems. These are complex technical issues, so I doubt a driver is able to solve them. The only thing he can do is give feedback, but since they're barely running, there isn't a lot of feedback to give :)
I wasn't thinking or assuming that Vettel (or any driver) might be of any use in the problem solving process. More the other way around - i.e. if Ricciardo gets some laps in, to be there, taking in as much as information as possible, learning. I would also think that his presence would at the very least be moral support to the team in their difficult struggle to get something useful out of the test.

On the autosport live-ticker, Button, in regards to his new team-mate, said something along the lines of "I’ll be here when he's driving to sit in on the meeting at the end of the day to see how he feels the car and what his feedback is like.".

This is what I'd be expecting at the very least from any driver during these couple of days. Obviously, the Red-Bull situation is a bit different given their struggles, but IMO, this only makes it even more important to be present.
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Phil wrote:
FoxHound wrote:Why would Vettel run if it is Ricciardo's designated test day?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I find it a bit strange that Vettel has left "home" and isn't even sticking around anymore. IMO - these testing days are crucial for any team, and as a participant of the team and as a driver, any progress or information that could be learned would be quite important. The fact that he has just left, well, I find it a bit odd at the very least... but maybe I'm reading too much into it?
It is indeed unsual for him as he is said to be sticking around very much in any situation. The difference here is that he has done next to 0 laps and thus cannot give any feedback at all. And there is only one car. I guess if he was able to contribute anything, he would have stayed.

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Is the caterham running today? If so, are they more on the pace than the popping torro rosso?
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Is it just me or has Hamilton not been out on track for quite a while now?

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no more RBR running today ; hoping to be ready for tomorrow
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oT v1 wrote:Is the caterham running today? If so, are they more on the pace than the popping torro rosso?
Frijns had only done some installation laps ... it is mentioned on some websites, that the CT-05's engine also makes unnormal sounds ... like the STR one's

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Phil wrote:
xDama wrote:
Phil wrote:I think you are. I doubt Vettel or any other Renault-driver can be of a big use for the current problems. These are complex technical issues, so I doubt a driver is able to solve them. The only thing he can do is give feedback, but since they're barely running, there isn't a lot of feedback to give :)
I wasn't thinking or assuming that Vettel (or any driver) might be of any use in the problem solving process. More the other way around - i.e. if Ricciardo gets some laps in, to be there, taking in as much as information as possible, learning. I would also think that his presence would at the very least be moral support to the team in their difficult struggle to get something useful out of the test.

On the autosport live-ticker, Button, in regards to his new team-mate, said something along the lines of "I’ll be here when he's driving to sit in on the meeting at the end of the day to see how he feels the car and what his feedback is like.".

This is what I'd be expecting at the very least from any driver during these couple of days. Obviously, the Red-Bull situation is a bit different given their struggles, but IMO, this only makes it even more important to be present.
I get your point, but I think it's trivial. With current day technology, Vettel can easily join in on a meeting like that via videochat, etc... We don't even know how those meetings occur, so maybe they're doing it as we speak.

But I get that his presence could be a moral support. But likewise it could be an extra factor of stress or pressure for the mechanics/team during a testweek that's already full of stress/pressure.
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Mag is pulling down the times quite nicely. Tells me the McLaren is relatively driver friendly. The actual times performance wise mean nothing but very good signs from McLaren and Merc. =D>

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Mandrake wrote:
Phil wrote:
FoxHound wrote:Why would Vettel run if it is Ricciardo's designated test day?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I find it a bit strange that Vettel has left "home" and isn't even sticking around anymore. IMO - these testing days are crucial for any team, and as a participant of the team and as a driver, any progress or information that could be learned would be quite important. The fact that he has just left, well, I find it a bit odd at the very least... but maybe I'm reading too much into it?
It is indeed unsual for him as he is said to be sticking around very much in any situation. The difference here is that he has done next to 0 laps and thus cannot give any feedback at all. And there is only one car. I guess if he was able to contribute anything, he would have stayed.
Didn't he and his girlfriend have a baby about a week ago? Probably rather be seeing them than sat in the garage looking at the car not doing anything.