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I do it all the time for the last 4 years. While here in slovenia HD broadcast is free on national television, it's flooded with commercial breaks and really awful commentary, so it's a no go. The other option is RTL but my german is not good enough to follow.turbof1 wrote:There are discussions ongoing about whether or not viewing streams is illegal. Uploading them is anyhow illegal, but there are astoundingly loads of argument in favor for and against viewing it, juridically speaking.
F1technical isn't and shouldn't be promoting this. I think referring that you do it is fine, as long as no links or website mentions come along. Just out of curiosity, and to try to break the taboo, who does this often as an alternative to pay tv?
I think most streams that are available are from betting sites that get "forwarded/redirected/restreamed" .turbof1 wrote:There are discussions ongoing about whether or not viewing streams is illegal. Uploading them is anyhow illegal, but there are astoundingly loads of argument in favor for and against viewing it, juridically speaking.
Do you know any betting sites that provide legal F1 streams?blokkie wrote:I think most streams that are available are from betting sites that get "forwarded/redirected/restreamed".
bwin.comBlanchimont wrote:Do you know any betting sites that provide legal F1 streams?blokkie wrote:I think most streams that are available are from betting sites that get "forwarded/redirected/restreamed".
Just want to get back to this, there's almost no real incentive for belgian people to switch to the paymodel of Telenet: they offer more or less the same as the Walloon channel: no free practices, not different presentators with more expertise. The only thing you'll get are a few camera viewpoints, a view on the pitlane and a livetiming channel.Steven wrote:I'm curious what the TV coverage situation is in various countries.
My interest is mainly triggered by yesterday's announcement that in Belgium, Telenet bought 3 year F1 rights. As such, you'd need their decoder, and a €17/month fee for their sports channels. Public TV will only broadcast summaries of the races late on Sunday.
I have also seen on twitter that there are some positive impressions on MovistarF1 or something. Has coverage in Spain changes too?
It seems like more and more countries are adopting the BBC vs Sky model...
I always torrent a high definition recording of Sky's broadcast a few hours after the checkered flag. NBC Sports' coverage is riddled with commercial breaks and the commentary is intended for grade-school children, largely ruining my enjoyment of a Grand Prix. I do suffer their Practice and Qualifying coverage, usually.turbof1 wrote:There are discussions ongoing about whether or not viewing streams is illegal. Uploading them is anyhow illegal, but there are astoundingly loads of argument in favor for and against viewing it, juridically speaking.
F1technical isn't and shouldn't be promoting this. I think referring that you do it is fine, as long as no links or website mentions come along. Just out of curiosity, and to try to break the taboo, who does this often as an alternative to pay tv?
Fairly good comment? That highly depends on what you call fairly good. I call them rubbish. I tend to be with turbof1 on this one. Once in a while I put it on Vier (just because the wife wants Dutch) and I immediately feel very smart, which I'm not, I'm not professionally involved in racing at all. What's the point of Wouters just telling what you can view. Foreign channels can be much more informative.blokkie wrote:In belgium we could see the races for free on television with a fairly good commentary. Dutch comments by racers and french commentary by F1 driver http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C ... 27Ambrosio .. it was kind of nice.
Now .. unfortunately on the flemish chanel the F1 broadcast rights have been aquiered by telenet (http://snap.telenet.be/goed-om-weten/ar ... ng-telenet) but with exactly the same commentators like last year .. when it was for free .
Sucks big time
I can only say that I am currently in spain surounded by lots of flemish speaking belgians , and almost without exception they speak good english , german , and some french ; on the other hand , in the walloon part of belgium [ where I visit regularly as my brother lives there ] they speak ....french ! [ with a belgian accent ]turbof1 wrote:Just want to get back to this, there's almost no real incentive for belgian people to switch to the paymodel of Telenet: they offer more or less the same as the Walloon channel: no free practices, not different presentators with more expertise. The only thing you'll get are a few camera viewpoints, a view on the pitlane and a livetiming channel.Steven wrote:I'm curious what the TV coverage situation is in various countries.
My interest is mainly triggered by yesterday's announcement that in Belgium, Telenet bought 3 year F1 rights. As such, you'd need their decoder, and a €17/month fee for their sports channels. Public TV will only broadcast summaries of the races late on Sunday.
I have also seen on twitter that there are some positive impressions on MovistarF1 or something. Has coverage in Spain changes too?
It seems like more and more countries are adopting the BBC vs Sky model...
French speaking will keep watching La Deux/La Une. Dutch speaking people will just switch to those channels or to the German RTL, or to streaming services.
I have to say this is a brilliant move in terms of education. A lot of Flemish people could spice up either their English, German or French with this.