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Well said, Sir. I always had my difficulties with the screamers. These sound so much nicer. But I accept that it is different for some people who have never heared turbo cars for real before. For those youngsters the high revving atmos are F1. The old farts know better.zeph wrote:I don't have a problem with the sound of the new PU's.
At least they don't get on my nerves the way the high-revving, shrieking V8's did. And they even sound a little futuristic!
The V8s were bad because they revved to high with a displacement too low, plus flat plane V8s were never good sounding engines. Even V8 street Ferraris sometimes do not sound good. The V10s were much better and also proved to be cheapear in the long run, but hey, politics has to stick its nose inzeph wrote:I don't have a problem with the sound of the new PU's.
At least they don't get on my nerves the way the high-revving, shrieking V8's did. And they even sound a little futuristic!
Not surprising. Maybe motorsport is not the sport for you and its time to admit it?WhiteBlue wrote:Well said, Sir. I always had my difficulties with the screamers.
I in fact slept during the race, never done that before. They sound like a cheap trail bike, plus are too quiet. Passionless, muted and simply unpleasant. I can name dozens of street cars with MUCH better sound, and that's without any mods. Mercedes did the worst noised one, and that made thing worse because most of the time they were showing Mercedes powered cars. Also, the cars are fat and unprofessional, they slide all over the place like an amateur job. Fun for a couple of minutes, ridiculous for anyone who knows a thing or two about racingWhiteBlue wrote:These sound so much nicer.
I have heard a lot of turbos, racing and street. F1 and Indy. None are that boring, plus turbos rarely are pleasant to hear. Having said that, I rather hear many street stock turbo cars than the current F1. And as opposed to the people who have an axle to grind (maybe less than 1%, people who care about "green racing" that shouldn't even watch races at all and many don't, so should be ignored) no one I talked to liked the noise. I bet like many here that the number of people actually watching F1 live will be severely reduced in the next years. Then they b*tch about money and lack of sponsors... F1 would be better money-wise and fun-wise with the old V10s, and would have spent less money/natural resourcesWhiteBlue wrote:But I accept that it is different for some people who have never heared turbo cars for real before
Old farts of the 80's with 1300hp knew better. Otherwise, a screaming atmo with a good number of cilinders and a displacement actually decent enough for racing (3 liters and up) is heaven and we all know itWhiteBlue wrote:For those youngsters the high revving atmos are F1. The old farts know better.
Australian Grand Prix organisers claim their contract may have been breached because the Formula One cars were not loud enough.
Andrew Westacott, Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC) chief executive, said after the race that the rule changes had impacted on the "sexiness" of the event and as a result fans did not get what they paid for.
AGPC chairman Ron Walker has contacted Bernie Ecclestone and made it clear organisers are unhappy. He is likely to have found a sympathetic ear. Ecclestone has repeatedly made clear his unhappiness with many of the raft of rule changes.
"One aspect of it was just a little bit duller than it's ever been before and that's part of the mix and the chemistry that they're going to have to get right," Westacott said. "Ron spoke to [Ecclestone] after the race and said the fans don't like it in the venue.
"We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches."
Westacott, who listed among his gripes the fact he did not need earplugs even in the pit lane, warned that European spectators were even more likely to be unhappy with the much quieter spectacle. "Previously, it shakes the bones," he said. "I'd be confident we'll have a different sound next year."
Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/australia/motorspo ... 6q2UJ2y.99
You'd have all the road car manufacturers drift off in a few years and be left with the big developments going on in Sports Car racing.Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:
The current formula SCREAMS overdone. They could settle for a 2 liter V6 and maybe less restrictions and a bit less recovery units. Costs would be down, the cars would actually be F1 fast and the noise would be OK. But they must save every drop of fuel for some sick reason... Should have just gone to the diesel route then, the noise would be similar
You might not be far off the mark there:-bauc wrote:This might be a stupid question, but is there any why FIA can allow F1 teams to install some sort of sound amplifiers on the exhausts?
Why not? We already have artificial racing.So now we are going to create an artificial sound?!
Most in the F1 paddock are disappointed, but Australian Grand Prix corporation chief executive Andrew Westacott has revealed he is actually angry.
"We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches," he told Fairfax Radio on Monday.
oh piss of Andrew."We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches," he told Fairfax Radio on Monday.
That the sounds were going to be horrible was allready known in advance, some people were just naïve to think that they wouldn't be.Diesel wrote:
The teams and engine manufacturers have spent millions of pounds on developing these state of the art drive-trains, and everyone wants to throw them in the bin because they don't like the sound?
I prefer the V8s, heck I preferred the V10s, but things have to change. The speed is also not an issue, the teams will recover the lost time.
