They could just plug a Soundracer into the cigarette lighter! What F1 cars don't have a cigarette lighter? Bummer.bauc wrote:This might be a stupid question, but is there any why FIA can allow F1 teams to install some sort of sound amplifiers on the exhausts?
The money spent on the new engines doesn't need to be taken in to account? Please enlighten us, since you know a thing or "2" about costing?AnthonyG wrote: I do know a thing or 2 about costing, and I can tell you considering a switch back to V8 is a decision where the money allready spent on the new engines shouldn't be taken into account.
Also, it's not as if the research done for these engines will be lost, even so, perhaps it'll even make it's way faster to production cars or to other series as the need for secrecy about the technology used won't be there anymore.
TV viewers are easier to please as many might never experience what its like to be watching the race at the track.Shakeman wrote:You'd have all the road car manufacturers drift off in a few years and be left with the big developments going on in Sports Car racing.Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:
The current formula SCREAMS overdone. They could settle for a 2 liter V6 and maybe less restrictions and a bit less recovery units. Costs would be down, the cars would actually be F1 fast and the noise would be OK. But they must save every drop of fuel for some sick reason... Should have just gone to the diesel route then, the noise would be similar
The manufacturers are all moving towards hybrid technology of all types and F1 having a loud scream engine would just end up being an anachronism. F1 has to embrace the new power unit technology but also has to do a better job of selling it and including the fans in the spectacle.
I am enjoying hearing tyre squeal and all of the other noise that was drowned out by the engines.
As a TV watcher of F1 I lost nothing but I think the broadcasters should have access to much more telemetry about the PU systems and what the drivers/cars are doing at any given time.
The sound is not the issue for me.
I know not everyone feels this way about the old V8's, but I think they sound bloody awful. Worse than that, they are slow.CHT wrote:TV viewers are easier to please as many might never experience what its like to be watching the race at the track.Shakeman wrote:You'd have all the road car manufacturers drift off in a few years and be left with the big developments going on in Sports Car racing.Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:
The current formula SCREAMS overdone. They could settle for a 2 liter V6 and maybe less restrictions and a bit less recovery units. Costs would be down, the cars would actually be F1 fast and the noise would be OK. But they must save every drop of fuel for some sick reason... Should have just gone to the diesel route then, the noise would be similar
The manufacturers are all moving towards hybrid technology of all types and F1 having a loud scream engine would just end up being an anachronism. F1 has to embrace the new power unit technology but also has to do a better job of selling it and including the fans in the spectacle.
I am enjoying hearing tyre squeal and all of the other noise that was drowned out by the engines.
As a TV watcher of F1 I lost nothing but I think the broadcasters should have access to much more telemetry about the PU systems and what the drivers/cars are doing at any given time.
The sound is not the issue for me.
When someone pay $1000 for a ticket to be seated right in front of the start and finish line, they would expect an experience of a life time. ie. when 22 screaming engines come to live.
This is a video from Sepang last year. Try watching from 2.55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E257IjtL4-I
That's because they're sunk costsDiesel wrote:The money spent on the new engines doesn't need to be taken in to account? Please enlighten us, since you know a thing or "2" about costing?AnthonyG wrote: I do know a thing or 2 about costing, and I can tell you considering a switch back to V8 is a decision where the money allready spent on the new engines shouldn't be taken into account.
Also, it's not as if the research done for these engines will be lost, even so, perhaps it'll even make it's way faster to production cars or to other series as the need for secrecy about the technology used won't be there anymore.
The work has been done now, change back would be insanity. The teams would never agree to it, so just get that idea out of your head, because it's not happening.
nice, i think artificial sound is the only cheap and easiest fix for the current sound problemShakeman wrote:They could just plug a Soundracer into the cigarette lighter! What F1 cars don't have a cigarette lighter? Bummer.bauc wrote:This might be a stupid question, but is there any why FIA can allow F1 teams to install some sort of sound amplifiers on the exhausts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo
Or, we could just get used to reality.siskue2005 wrote:nice, i think artificial sound is the only cheap and easiest fix for the current sound problemShakeman wrote:They could just plug a Soundracer into the cigarette lighter! What F1 cars don't have a cigarette lighter? Bummer.bauc wrote:This might be a stupid question, but is there any why FIA can allow F1 teams to install some sort of sound amplifiers on the exhausts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo
Haha, Jenson with understeer. Shocker.SectorOne wrote:First of all, brilliant video, also keep in mind Youtube compresses their sh*t like crazy.
but what is interesting is at 1:09 listen to the turbo, it shuts off for a second out of the corner then starts working again. Engine map doing that?
