Williams FW36 Mercedes

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michl420
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I noticed that "vibrates" also, but for me the whole front suspension works different (more), to mclaren at least.

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Sevach wrote:On the grid, Massa said to Barrichello that the car is quite low drag that's why it sucked in the rain.
not surprising Bottas had very good top speed (within top 3 for each sector)

Sector 1: 77 V. BOTTAS 275.7
Sector 2: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.2
Sector 3: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.3

Sevach
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kaido wrote:
Sevach wrote:On the grid, Massa said to Barrichello that the car is quite low drag that's why it sucked in the rain.
not surprising Bottas had very good top speed (within top 3 for each sector)

Sector 1: 77 V. BOTTAS 275.7
Sector 2: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.2
Sector 3: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.3
That's a combo of low drag, Merc power and spending most of the race in someone's slipstream :mrgreen:

Huntresa
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Sevach wrote:
kaido wrote:
Sevach wrote:On the grid, Massa said to Barrichello that the car is quite low drag that's why it sucked in the rain.
not surprising Bottas had very good top speed (within top 3 for each sector)

Sector 1: 77 V. BOTTAS 275.7
Sector 2: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.2
Sector 3: 77 V. BOTTAS 303.3
That's a combo of low drag, Merc power and spending most of the race in someone's slipstream :mrgreen:
But then again at times he was far behind the others and just reeled them in, i was especially amazed over the traction coming out of the first corner compared to the Ferrari he was chasing, he just ate up meter by meter before the DRS even started on the 2nd straight.

Matt Somers
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A shot of the Williams push rod movement from the BBC footage

http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Somersra ... 5.mp4.html
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OO7
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Matt Somers wrote:A shot of the Williams push rod movement from the BBC footage

http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Somersra ... 5.mp4.html
There was some footage during practice or qualification of one of the Williams' negotiating Turn 2, with the left front bouncing up and down over the track surface (not the curbing).

tomazy
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Interesting, is seems like it gives the suspention a bit of extra trevel distance. Probably that the inside wheel in a corner 'falls' to the ground quicker when running agresivly over the curb?

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Is that legal?
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Lycoming
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That's weird... it looks like it's opening up under compression.

Owen.C93
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Having a 2 stage spring effectively allows to to run softer on the inside wheel at high roll angles. As far as I'm aware it's legal but I don't understand why it's done at the hub end of the pushrod.
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Owen.C93 wrote:Having a 2 stage spring effectively allows to to run softer on the inside wheel at high roll angles. As far as I'm aware it's legal but I don't understand why it's done at the hub end of the pushrod.
Lower CoG !?

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Owen.C93 wrote:Having a 2 stage spring effectively allows to to run softer on the inside wheel at high roll angles. As far as I'm aware it's legal but I don't understand why it's done at the hub end of the pushrod.
To disconnect the hub from the damper, they're not just trying to reduce the springrate - you'd just do that with pushrod geometery - they're trying to deliberate excite the hub when the loads are low, probably for keeping more temperature in the front unloaded tyre?

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It was bouncing up and down because he had just locked the brakes and had a major flat spot on the tire, watch the footage again.

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Sevach wrote:On the grid, Massa said to Barrichello that the car is quite low drag that's why it sucked in the rain.
Interesting. The FW-36 seems to be a very fast car though. The high top speeds and the low consumption (Bottas's race) would mean the Williams is mainly relying on its floor and diffuser for downforce (its nice floating sidepods could explain this) and is running with 'flatter' wings. That would expalin it's relatively poor pace under the rain; maybe its low floor works worse in those condition and hence the wings are low AoA, it cant rely on their direct and cheap DF.

Owen.C93
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PhillipM wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:Having a 2 stage spring effectively allows to to run softer on the inside wheel at high roll angles. As far as I'm aware it's legal but I don't understand why it's done at the hub end of the pushrod.
To disconnect the hub from the damper, ... they're trying to deliberate excite the hub when the loads are low, probably for keeping more temperature in the front unloaded tyre?
That's it.
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