Re: Red Bull exceed fuel flow limit, Ricciardo DSQ at Austra

[dxpetrov]

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FIA are scrapping the rule.
More here: http://www.pitpass.com/51225/Fuel-flow- ... e-scrapped

This vindicates RB position apparently.

[Juzh]

FIA are scrapping the rule.
More here: http://www.pitpass.com/51225/Fuel-flow- ... e-scrapped

This vindicates RB position apparently.

1. april.

[dxpetrov]

FIA are scrapping the rule.
More here: http://www.pitpass.com/51225/Fuel-flow- ... e-scrapped

This vindicates RB position apparently.

1. april.

Hmm, not so sure, but might be... Horner also admitted in Autosport that fIA accept that the sensors are faulty and allowed them to race relying on their own data in Mal. Pitpass have also questioned is this an April fool joke or common sense starts to prevail in F1.

[Pierce89]

FIA are scrapping the rule.
More here: http://www.pitpass.com/51225/Fuel-flow- ... e-scrapped

This vindicates RB position apparently.

1. april.

Hmm, not so sure, but might be... Horner also admitted in Autosport that fIA accept that the sensors are faulty and allowed them to race relying on their own data in Mal. Pitpass have also questioned is this an April fool joke or common sense starts to prevail in F1.

Uhh dude, Pitpass is known for their April fools jokes read the second page. They also have an April fools joke about the live timing app.

[Chuckjr]

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Looks like RB may indeed look to rebadge the Cosworth in June. How incredible is it that Cosworth had waiting in the "wings" an F1 PU to be claimed. What incredible fortune for RB. Incredible if this is true.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

[djos]

Looks like RB may indeed look to rebadge the Cosworth in June. How incredible is it that Cosworth had waiting in the "wings" an F1 PU to be claimed. What incredible fortune for RB. Incredible if this is true.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

Prolly more April fools - if anything IMO RBR would bring Cosworth in to work with Renault to optimse their PU - this would be far more cost effective and efficient at getting RBR a competitive PU.

[djos]

I posted this link in the RB team thread, but maybe it belongs here since it is car related--whatever the case, if true, IT will be an interesting development for RB come June.

Can anyone confirm if this is real? I'll delete the post if it's erroneous.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

Prolly more April fools - if anything IMO RBR would bring Cosworth in to work with Renault to optimse their PU - this would be far more cost effective and efficient at getting RBR a competitive PU.

[Cam]

Is it such a big leap though? Red Bull started out with a Cosworth if I can recall. This fits with exactly the philosophy Red Bull have run for some time - issue with Cosworth engine, change supplier, issue with Ferrari engine, change supplier, issue with alternator, change supplier. Red Bull dumped MM mid way through the year like it was nothing.

Why would Cosworth pursue the development of an F1 engine when it had no customers? Or did it have one all along - including some financial backing? You can just imagine DM's approach "Horner and Newey want these specs - you deliver, I pay".

Business wise, the concept has merit too. Red Bull have race teams all over the world in different categories - all of which would benefit from the resources of an in-house engine development department.

Interestingly, Red Bull only signed to a 5 year agreement with Renault - of which that was mentioned back in mid 2011. So there's actually not that long to go on any engine deal anyway. A performance clause would assist any contract issues.

Red Bull has extended its engine supply deal with Renault Sport for another five years and is set to work hand-in-hand with the manufacturer on the new 1.6-litre V6 turbo engine for 2014.
Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... gQ0Cd0j.99

This probably is a April Fool attempt - but where there's smoke....the possibility is realistic and quite fascinating.

[xpensive]

Looks like RB may indeed look to rebadge the Cosworth in June. How incredible is it that Cosworth had waiting in the "wings" an F1 PU to be claimed. What incredible fortune for RB. Incredible if this is true.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

Good to see the journos having a sense of humor on April 1st, I love this part;

Furthermore the new Wings DM-1 unit is reportedly flirting with four figure horsepower figures at full capacity, and is said to weigh “substantially less” than rival power units, with a “hugely effective and revolutionary” Energy Recovery System (ERS).

[Huntresa]

I posted this link in the RB team thread, but maybe it belongs here since it is car related--whatever the case, if true, IT will be an interesting development for RB come June.

Can anyone confirm if this is real? I'll delete the post if it's erroneous.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

What else did you believe yesterday?

[irang]

Is it such a big leap though? Red Bull started out with a Cosworth if I can recall. This fits with exactly the philosophy Red Bull have run for some time - issue with Cosworth engine, change supplier, issue with Ferrari engine, change supplier, issue with alternator, change supplier. Red Bull dumped MM mid way through the year like it was nothing.

Why would Cosworth pursue the development of an F1 engine when it had no customers? Or did it have one all along - including some financial backing? You can just imagine DM's approach "Horner and Newey want these specs - you deliver, I pay".

Business wise, the concept has merit too. Red Bull have race teams all over the world in different categories - all of which would benefit from the resources of an in-house engine development department.

Interestingly, Red Bull only signed to a 5 year agreement with Renault - of which that was mentioned back in mid 2011. So there's actually not that long to go on any engine deal anyway. A performance clause would assist any contract issues.

Red Bull has extended its engine supply deal with Renault Sport for another five years and is set to work hand-in-hand with the manufacturer on the new 1.6-litre V6 turbo engine for 2014.
Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport ... gQ0Cd0j.99

This probably is a April Fool attempt - but where there's smoke....the possibility is realistic and quite fascinating.

I'm pretty sure this was a April 1st stuff.
Anyway, regarding the part in bold they stuck to Magneti Marelli until the end of 2012 season (After Webber's DNF in Austin press made a big deal out of it before Brazil race. How it's a ticking bomb, it may the championship deciding factor and so on.) and only made the switch before the new season. http://www.f1technical.net/development/407 Also I don't get why it should be seen so negatively. How many points did they lose in that season due to them, which could have cost RB one of their titles? As Rob White mentioned in that article it wasn't just Red Bull who suffered from its reliability issues. I even remember a McLaren engineer made a joke Red Bull are cheap to use MM alternators. He may not be the most objective person to comment on the matter but as far as I'm concerned Red Bull made the right choice in the end and there's nothing wrong with it.

[Skippon]

I quite liked the -40% tolerance on the fuel flow meter!!

[xpensive]

"An example is the fact that the metal and alloys used to build the engine will be of a blue hue, in keeping with the brand."

[Cam]

Red Bull dumped MM mid way through the year like it was nothing.

Anyway, regarding the part in bold they stuck to Magneti Marelli until the end of 2012 season (After Webber's DNF in Austin press made a big deal out of it before Brazil race.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

[Chuckjr]

I posted this link in the RB team thread, but maybe it belongs here since it is car related--whatever the case, if true, IT will be an interesting development for RB come June.

Can anyone confirm if this is real? I'll delete the post if it's erroneous.

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... ne_onward/

Prolly more April fools - if anything IMO RBR would bring Cosworth in to work with Renault to optimse their PU - this would be far more cost effective and efficient at getting RBR a competitive PU.

You're absolutely right. My poor judgement there. I just liked the general idea more than anything but nevertheless, dumb move on my part.