Ferrari have confirmed the departure of Pat Fry and Nikolas Tombazis from the Scuderia, amidst a reorganisation that started when new team principal Maurizio Arrivabene came in charge. Arrivabene, Managing Director of {Ferrari}’s Gestione Sportiva and Team Principal of Scuderia Ferrari, has restructured his team with a flatter structure and clear assignment of responsibilities.
This proves the point I originally made and was downvoted for. This MM guy is only a pawn for Monty. Nothing more. He's a figure for Monty to use to completely control the team.kaido wrote:Luca di Montezemolo will be more involved with Ferrari in Formula 1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113479
Chuckjr wrote:This proves the point I originally made and was downvoted for. This MM guy is only a pawn for Monty. Nothing more. He's a figure for Monty to use to completely control the team.kaido wrote:Luca di Montezemolo will be more involved with Ferrari in Formula 1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113479
Ferrari are stating that themselves:ecapox wrote:4 races out of 19 and you are already telling them th throw in the towel?
I mean, if you're not here to win, why turn up at all? IMO - it's this thinking which is why there are where they are. Ferrari should focus on being the 'best team'. If they fall short, they fall short. You'll never be number 1 if you only aim for number 2. If I was in their team and heard that - I would be so deflated. Why march into battle when the generals have already given up?Pat Fry wrote:Our first priority," he said, "is to establish ourselves as the second best team.
I'm sure they are there to win, but being there to win does not mean that their only goal needs to be "must win right now". Breaking a task down into smaller steps is absolutely something you need to do. Establishing themselves as the leader amongst all the teams that are 3 seconds behind Mercedes certainly seems like a very sane first step to me. After that, the next goal clearly needs to be being the only team 2 seconds slower than Mercedes, then the only team 1 second slower than Mercedes, and then on a par with Mercedes, and then finally, winning.Cam wrote:I mean, if you're not here to win, why turn up at all? IMO - it's this thinking which is why there are where they are. Ferrari should focus on being the 'best team'. If they fall short, they fall short. You'll never be number 1 if you only aim for number 2. If I was in their team and heard that - I would be so deflated. Why march into battle when the generals have already given up?
Leaders can think that, they can even (should) plan for that - but never ever say it.
Completely agree.Cam wrote:Ferrari are stating that themselves:ecapox wrote:4 races out of 19 and you are already telling them th throw in the towel?I mean, if you're not here to win, why turn up at all? IMO - it's this thinking which is why there are where they are. Ferrari should focus on being the 'best team'. If they fall short, they fall short. You'll never be number 1 if you only aim for number 2. If I was in their team and heard that - I would be so deflated. Why march into battle when the generals have already given up?Pat Fry wrote:Our first priority," he said, "is to establish ourselves as the second best team.
Leaders can think that, they can even (should) plan for that - but never ever say it.
You're being a bit over dramatic here. The team is only being realistic. We all know Ferrari's main goal is to win, that goes without saying. Considering where the car/team is at right now, establishing themselves as clear second best is a good reasonable goal. From there you try to overtake Mercedes.Cam wrote:Ferrari are stating that themselves:ecapox wrote:4 races out of 19 and you are already telling them th throw in the towel?I mean, if you're not here to win, why turn up at all? IMO - it's this thinking which is why there are where they are. Ferrari should focus on being the 'best team'. If they fall short, they fall short. You'll never be number 1 if you only aim for number 2. If I was in their team and heard that - I would be so deflated. Why march into battle when the generals have already given up?Pat Fry wrote:Our first priority," he said, "is to establish ourselves as the second best team.
Leaders can think that, they can even (should) plan for that - but never ever say it.
You were down voted for having said that? Can't see that there is anything at all "technical" about your remarks. Seems rather more like you were expressing an opinion, which should not be the subject of ANY vote, either up or down. Just goes to show what a load of bollocks the forum rating system is. And i suppose I shall be down voted for saying so.This proves the point I originally made and was downvoted for. This MM guy is only a pawn for Monty. Nothing more. He's a figure for Monty to use to completely control the team.
I'm inclined to agree with this, but then again, stranger things have happened!Actually, here you have The First Rule of Ciro About Team Management:
"If you want to finish in second place, do not, I repeat, DO NOT fire your Team Manager before the fourth race of the season".
No, it's just a talk, a move to distance yourself from results and responsibility. "We are awful but I wasn't involved enough". The implication is: now it's going to change with my bigger involvement. Always blame someone/something else and divert attention to the future. Look at this brilliant part:Chuckjr wrote:This proves the point I originally made and was downvoted for. This MM guy is only a pawn for Monty. Nothing more. He's a figure for Monty to use to completely control the team.kaido wrote:Luca di Montezemolo will be more involved with Ferrari in Formula 1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113479
Yep. It's the message it sends. Even if you really are fighting to be the best of the rest then it's something you don't say.Cam wrote:I mean, if you're not here to win, why turn up at all? IMO - it's this thinking which is why there are where they are. Ferrari should focus on being the 'best team'.Pat Fry wrote:Our first priority," he said, "is to establish ourselves as the second best team.
If that was the case, then they should keep doing itmunudeges wrote:They're glory running for the new guy already. Oh dear.
