Are you talking about LMP1-H? There is no Balance of Performance... only Balance of Kinetic energy (called Equivalence of Technology, or EoT) which, with the FIA mandated fuel meter and Torque meters, is impossible to falsify;WhiteBlue wrote:What do you guys think? Will there be sand bagging to avoid BoP measures before Le Mans?
I think it is difficult to say that with certainty... the Porsche #20 did achieve one 29 lap stint compared to the Toyota's 28 lap stints (in green-flag, "dry", conditions), but the Toyota was quicker over the same period... Porsche could simply have toned down their power (hence fuel usage) to eek out the extra lap.... Or Toyota might have been giving themselves a bigger safety margin on fuel remaining when they came in.... it is impossible to say....WhiteBlue wrote:. Porsche obviously build the most fuel efficient car judging by the periods of the race when things were undistorted by safety cars and changing weather.
Ah, I have found the data. It is like I thought. Diesels are currently still 6% more efficient than petrol cars. And the process for EoT is still full of potential sand bagging.machin wrote:The Diesels get a fuel per lap allowance that has a calorific value 6% less (not 5%) than the petrols. However the reason is that according to the specific fuel consumption figures provided by the manufacturers*, Audi's Diesel engine is 6% more efficient (6% higher BHP per hour per MJ of fuel calorific content burnt) than the better of Porsche/Toyota's engines, i.e. the best Diesel and the Best Petrol engined cars will have the same mechanical energy per lap (note distinction between mechanical energy and the calorific content of the fuel).langwadt wrote:If you look at the regulations the Diesels get ~5% less _energy_ per lap than the gasolines
i.e. The cars are balanced to achieve equal mechanical energy, not calorific content of the fuel burnt and not lap time.
Now, whether you agree that balancing mechanical energy output is "fair" is an entirely different question...
(* if any manufacturer exceeds their declared specific fuel consumption figure (kg per BHP per hour) they will be penalised.)
Both Toyota and Porsche run in the 6MJ hybrid class, so they have the same fuel allowance per lap... (Porsche changed from the 8MJ to 6MJ class in the past few weeks).WhiteBlue wrote:I have no doubt that Porsche has the most fuel efficient petrol car. They have the lowest fuel allowance because they race in the highest recovery class. So they inherently are more fuel efficient than Rebellion and Toyota if they manage to use less fuel.
I wouldn't call that sand-bagging. That is called running the engine at its "optimum" conditions (where "optimum" means balancing power output, with fuel economy, with reliability).WhiteBlue wrote: Nobody can stop a manufacturer to post lower power output than actually achieved. If they go for a low weigh strategy they can simply compensate by running the engine with lower than maximum power and running more laps than they would normally do. This strategy would also help reliability. So we cannot know at all if anybody has been sandbagging in the procedure up to the last EoT decision.
Unfortunately the FIA press release on the subjects specifically states that the kW/kg.hour figures will NOT be made public....WhiteBlue wrote:Is there any information what kind of power output at a given fuel flow and therefore brake thermal efficiency the prototypes reached?