Red Bull RB10 Renault

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jagunx51
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Duke wrote:
bonjon1979 wrote:
n smikle wrote:Yes it is. But how is such a part of the car governed by the FIA?
By the rule that states you can have no moveable aero. Different day same cheating from red bull
As long as it passes any FIA deflection tests, it is legal.
what advantage did they gain by making it movable ??
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jagunx51 wrote:what advantage did they gain by making it movable ??
Some kind of a smart flow-management, I suppose.

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Tim.Wright wrote:Here we go again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTWqWUJQoo

Any of our gurus able to identify where on the track this short clip is filmed? To me it 'appears' to flex upwards as speed increases, which would be the opposite direction I would have thought would happen - though I'm no aerodynamics expert. :D

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stuartpengs wrote:
Tim.Wright wrote:Here we go again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTWqWUJQoo

Any of our gurus able to identify where on the track this short clip is filmed? To me it 'appears' to flex upwards as speed increases, which would be the opposite direction I would have thought would happen - though I'm no aerodynamics expert. :D

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its the last bendy bit after la caixa :)

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allstaruk08 wrote:
its the last bendy bit after la caixa :)
Thanks for that allstaruk08. So it is flexing upwards as the speed increases then?

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zztopless wrote:But can such a small flap really give that much of a performance advantage, even with quite a bit of flex? It's not running a high angle of attack relative to the oncoming air, seems to be more of a turning vane.

I still suspect that video is of the piece before it broke in FP1 when we saw Ricciardo trying to break it off.
My guess would be that coming off the tip of that piece is a beautiful vortex that is running along the top and then side of the side pod. It's possible that it is being used to seal off parts of the car at particular speeds/yaw angles or is being used to further energise the air moving to the rear of the car.

Just my 2C.

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Tim.Wright
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stuartpengs wrote:Thanks for that allstaruk08. So it is flexing upwards as the speed increases then?

Looks like it. So you could deduce from this that the part in itself is producing lift since the pressure below it is higher than the pressure above it.

So to me its a flow management "switch" which sends air to one location at low speed and a different location at highspeed.
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jagunx51 wrote:what advantage did they gain by making it movable ??
I imagine it reduces drag by disrupting vortical flow from the VGs located along the top of the sidepod.

From about 0:11 to 0:27 in the video, you can actually see the interaction between the bendy wing and the innermost VG in the form of intermittent condensation when the devices are closest to each other.

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No Newey magic here:
Scarbs on Twitter wrote:@Formula1extra @SomersF1 this was confirmed to me as a structural problem by the FIA

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Well, that's no fun.

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atanatizante
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http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... /1181.html

Could anyone provide me a photo with this update ?
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DarkJRO wrote:the waved cut in the floor was new in china, according to AMUS

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picture by amus
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mcjamweasel wrote:No Newey magic here:
Scarbs on Twitter wrote:@Formula1extra @SomersF1 this was confirmed to me as a structural problem by the FIA
OK so it was a broken part then.

Designed to fail?

They ran it in the race if anyone wanted to know.
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n smikle wrote: They ran it in the race if anyone wanted to know.
+1
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AMUS claims that Vettels old chassis was sent to Milton Keynes and after checking it, they found out that it was indeed distorted.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 62176.html