Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

[MONEYR]

"We have been friends a long time & as friends we have our ups & downs. Today we spoke & we're cool, still friends #noproblem"

http://instagram.com/p/ooFH82r01V/

[heidenreich27]

Good joke hamilton

[thomin]

Interesting that Lewis is all of a sudden using the f-word, whereas before he emphasized that they're mere colleagues. I'm guessing this is a result of his management and/or Niki having a word with him.
Still, as long as it helps him keeping his head clear and focusing on the next race, it's all good. Plus, that picture is really cool.


On a different note, I just listened to Midweek Motorsport on Radio LeMans. There they took a close look at both Nico's and Lewis' driving style and came to the conclusion, that Nico is easier on the tires because he doesn't break as hard as Lewis. Lewis' style on the other hand is not as fuel consuming, so they figured that at the end of the day, fuel consumption vs. tire wear could be the decisive factor this season.

[turbof1]

"We have been friends a long time & as friends we have our ups & downs. Today we spoke & we're cool, still friends #noproblem"

http://instagram.com/p/ooFH82r01V/

I wonder if those 2 were closely watching to make sure Hamilton put the right message on twitter



It sounds a very sarcastic message, especially in the light of what's been said before.

[stephenwh]

They made him change it from "frenemies" to "friends" before he hit the submit button.

[FoxHound]

It sounds a very sarcastic message, especially in the light of what's been said before.

I reckon there was some substance to it, especially a few days after the event. Hamilton had time to cool off, crush some bubble wrap(yeeeeaaaaaaa sooooothing!) and just click back into normal mode.
(speculatively)Rosberg could have done this purposefully, not for Monaco pole, but for the effects it would have on Hamilton after the GP.
By throwing toys out the pram, his head would go and Rosberg would be fighting a different, more malleable Hamilton.

By showing he is over this episode, Hamilton is showing Rosberg that IF indeed this was underhand(which I don't believe it was), then he is not taking the bait by losing his head.

[Cam]

The issue of personality clashes in the workplace is controversial. According to the Australian government, the two types of workplace conflicts are "when people's ideas, decisions or actions relating directly to the job are in opposition, or when two people just don't get along.”

Perhaps Hamilton is in the “interpersonal intelligence” category?

In theory, individuals who have high interpersonal intelligence are characterized by their sensitivity to others' moods, feelings, temperaments and motivations, and their ability to cooperate in order to work as part of a group.

If he is, then this won’t end, not without some serious outside assistance.

This all has a bit of deja vu about it, no? And we all know how that panned out.

Alonso took his second win at Monte-Carlo, but he knew that Hamilton was closing in. Had Hamilton not happened across Mark Webber’s Red Bull while on a hot lap, he was set to out-qualify Alonso despite carrying more fuel.

During the race McLaren pitted Hamilton early for fuel to prevent him being vulnerable should the safety car come out. But it cost him a shot at the win and remarks from Hamilton in the press conference hinting at what had gone on led to McLaren being investigated by the FIA for using team orders. They were cleared, but it focussed attention on the developing battle between the two drivers.

[thomin]

This all has a bit of deja vu about it, no? And we all know how that panned out.

Alonso took his second win at Monte-Carlo, but he knew that Hamilton was closing in. Had Hamilton not happened across Mark Webber’s Red Bull while on a hot lap, he was set to out-qualify Alonso despite carrying more fuel.

During the race McLaren pitted Hamilton early for fuel to prevent him being vulnerable should the safety car come out. But it cost him a shot at the win and remarks from Hamilton in the press conference hinting at what had gone on led to McLaren being investigated by the FIA for using team orders. They were cleared, but it focussed attention on the developing battle between the two drivers.

For some reason I doubt that the Kimi/Ferrari combo will spoil the silver party this time around...

[PlatinumZealot]

Interesting that Lewis is all of a sudden using the f-word, whereas before he emphasized that they're mere colleagues. I'm guessing this is a result of his management and/or Niki having a word with him.
Still, as long as it helps him keeping his head clear and focusing on the next race, it's all good. Plus, that picture is really cool.


On a different note, I just listened to Midweek Motorsport on Radio LeMans. There they took a close look at both Nico's and Lewis' driving style and came to the conclusion, that Nico is easier on the tires because he doesn't break as hard as Lewis. Lewis' style on the other hand is not as fuel consuming, so they figured that at the end of the day, fuel consumption vs. tire wear could be the decisive factor this season.

I think they are pretty much equal on tires. The races where one has ran out of tyres it has been Rosberg so far, but two races is not enough of a sample size.

[SiLo]

Didn't realise how similar the situation was to Hamilton/Alonso back in 07. Might explain why he was so pissed.

[turbof1]

Didn't realise how similar the situation was to Hamilton/Alonso back in 07. Might explain why he was so pissed.

I think one spat out isn't enough to draw comparisons to the 2007 debacle between Hamilton and Alonso. Remember: Alonso sabotaged at one point Hamilton's qualy on purpose, Rosberg (most likely) did not. Things between Alonso and Hamilton were tense all season long, let's just see how this one pans out. One race weekend that got tense but otherwise not out of hand, doesn't necessarily mean an all out inter-team fued.

[ringo]

Hamilton is saving fuel because he is braking later. He is probably recovering more energy from the brakes and also coasting for more distance since he's braking further down the straight in theory.
We've seen that in monaco Nico was much slower when trying to drive to a style that saves fuel. He was using a lower gear at some stage to get more acceleration in a certain section, but when the engineer tells him to stop doing it, his lap time was greatly affected. So it seems to be apparent that Lewis' adaptability and late braking is what is making him so flexible on fuel usage.
It's quite ironic, as some had believed that these hi tech fuel saving cars would play into the hands of a softer driving style. When in fact it's the guys who are man handling the cars that are benefitting the most.

[flynfrog]

Hamilton is saving fuel because he is braking later. He is probably recovering more energy from the brakes and also coasting for more distance since he's braking further down the straight in theory.
We've seen that in monaco Nico was much slower when trying to drive to a style that saves fuel. He was using a lower gear at some stage to get more acceleration in a certain section, but when the engineer tells him to stop doing it, his lap time was greatly affected. So it seems to be apparent that Lewis' adaptability and late braking is what is making him so flexible on fuel usage.
It's quite ironic, as some had believed that these hi tech fuel saving cars would play into the hands of a softer driving style. When in fact it's the guys who are man handling the cars that are benefitting the most.

None of that makes any sense

Braking late would be worse on fuel consumtion no matter how you slice it.

You are on the throttle longer, You are not harvesting more as you need more mechanical brake to dissipate the energy. You are going to carry less speed through the corner because you are trying to turn sharper then you need to burn more energy to get back to speed.

If you are trying to save fuel braking the least makes much more sense than braking late.

[illario]

Its not comfortable for me to talk based on impression,(i'm aware of quality rather than quantity of comments, i do very few) but, i had a feeling, that, especially at MIRABEAU he was better. You think he was braking later there(where second sector starts), and setup that let him go late in braking and yet keep speed through Mirabeau to down, that was my impression, thus i think when Rosberg whent out there, Hamilton knew, hi's second sector can not be improved because of yellow. Is it possible to be so 'much' better at one corner that it'll win you a hole sector, because of that gain.

[PlatinumZealot]

Hamilton is saving fuel because he is braking later. He is probably recovering more energy from the brakes and also coasting for more distance since he's braking further down the straight in theory.
We've seen that in monaco Nico was much slower when trying to drive to a style that saves fuel. He was using a lower gear at some stage to get more acceleration in a certain section, but when the engineer tells him to stop doing it, his lap time was greatly affected. So it seems to be apparent that Lewis' adaptability and late braking is what is making him so flexible on fuel usage.
It's quite ironic, as some had believed that these hi tech fuel saving cars would play into the hands of a softer driving style. When in fact it's the guys who are man handling the cars that are benefitting the most.

None of that makes any sense

Braking late would be worse on fuel consumtion no matter how you slice it.

You are on the throttle longer, You are not harvesting more as you need more mechanical brake to dissipate the energy. You are going to carry less speed through the corner because you are trying to turn sharper then you need to burn more energy to get back to speed.

If you are trying to save fuel braking the least makes much more sense than braking late.

I think late braking can possibly save fuel if you coast before, though I have not quite figured out how it comes together as yet.

Coasting theoretically slows your corner entry speed because you come off the throttle to do it, and so your car begins to decelerate by any of these things: Aero drag, tyre drag, drive-train friction, engine compression or KERS generation. In theory this should be the slower way around the track right? I am not so sure yet..

Not coasting means you are on the throttle up to your braking point.... Either end of straight acceleration or constant limited top speed (aero drag limited speed or gear limited top speed), then sharp deceleration on the brakes.

Not coasting seems to be ideal in that there is more time spent at a higher speed, meaning the non-coasting car should be further ahead up to the turn in point right? But is it really? I don't know. I think we can examine this more closely as the deceleration phase, just like in Olympic sprinting is still a major part of being ahead of your rivals on track. One might find that Coasting with the 2014 cars does in fact save more fuel over the race....