2014 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal

[Juzh]

[roadie]

Really sweet lap from ROS.

It really has the potential to be a great race today. I hope there is some strategy variation though!

[thomin]

Really sweet lap from ROS.

It really has the potential to be a great race today. I hope there is some strategy variation though!

Given that this is bound to be a one stopper and given that all top ten drivers have to start in super softs, I don't see how you cod vary your strategy much.

The only thing a driver like Lewis can do (assuming he can't pass Nico, otherwise the roles would be reversed) is to try to make is tires last very long and to do a couple of very aggressive laps once Nico comes in for his soft tires.

[Sevach]

I'm wondering whether Hamilton's first run on q3 would've been enough for pole without Ricciardo in the picture. Does anyone have his sector times from his first q3 run ?

He was about .07 up on Rosberg's first lap after 2 sectors, their best in s3 are quite close.
29.723 Ros
29.741 Ham

Even with no Ricciardo i think that lap migh'tve been beaten by Rosberg's second lap.
Their ideal laps, are inch close.

1,14,857 Ham
1,14,866 Ros

There was nothing speed wise between them, Rosberg got very close to perfection (just .008 off his ideal) so he got it.

[thomin]

Jeezes guys, Lewis messed up (he confirmed it himself). Otherwise it would have been another Hamilton pole. Now Nico did the better job. Time to get over it.

Let's have a thrilling race with another double win for merc. Go Hami!

Sure had Hamilton put down the perfect lap, he'd be on pole. And had my aunt balls, it would be my uncle.
It's so pointless to refer to errors as the whole point of qualifying is not to make any. Quite literally, every time Lewis qualifies ahead of Nico, Nico made one or more errors and vice versa.

[smr]

As I said on page 8 then... and was correct... all the hype around Hamilton is playing perfectly into the hands of Rosberg, take allllll the pressure off Rosberg (being the underdog) and let it rest on Hamilton's shoulders and as I pointed out, it would and was to the detriment of Hamilton.

It's exactly what Nico needs and it'll continue for a long while yet - media hype Hamilton, thus placing more pressure than necessary on him, Nico just goes about his business and gets more points, resulting in WDC for Nico.

Stunning pole, never seen Nico so aggressive on turn in before.

[Unc1eM0nty]

Do you think Merc will 1 or 2 stop ?

Lewis will want to pass early so he has the first call on stratergy, he was faster on the soft tyres though, this and his fuel saving both point to Lewis being stronger towards the end of the race, the long game is not really his style though is it ? he'll be all over him like a rash, that's if he doesn't jump him at the start of course.

I expect Vettel get jumped by a least one of the Williams on the 1st lap, I don't think he'll have an answer for them either, they'll be way too fast on the straights.

All in all it's shaping up to be a good race, really looking forward to this, it's a nice day in the UK, barbecue first then settle down to watch with a beer at 6pm, nice !

[beelsebob]

Do you think Merc will 1 or 2 stop ?

Lewis will want to pass early so he has the first call on stratergy, he was faster on the soft tyres though, this and his fuel saving both point to Lewis being stronger towards the end of the race, the long game is not really his style though is it ? he'll be all over him like a rash, that's if he doesn't jump him at the start of course.

Eh, fuel saving points to being better at the start of the race, not the end.

[gray41]

Maybe Mercedes will have such a gap that they could two stop the season driver to at least give him a chance to attack the other driver at some point?

[bdr529]

Jeezes guys, Lewis messed up (he confirmed it himself). Otherwise it would have been another Hamilton pole. Now Nico did the better job. Time to get over it.

Let's have a thrilling race with another double win for merc. Go Hami!

Sure had Hamilton put down the perfect lap, he'd be on pole. And had my aunt balls, it would be my uncle.
It's so pointless to refer to errors as the whole point of qualifying is not to make any. Quite literally, every time Lewis qualifies ahead of Nico, Nico made one or more errors and vice versa.

I'm confused who's got the pole your aunt or your uncle

It's Montreal anything can happen, theres always a good chance of the saftey car coming out. it's quite possible that Lewis has the lead by the end of the first lap.
I think the cars suit this track, and we should see alot of action up and down the grid

[Gaz.]

I was wondering about the 2 stop- Mclaren made it work in 2012.

[rssh]

I was wondering about the 2 stop- Mclaren made it work in 2012.

This year the tyres are more harder than in 2012, so tyre wear like 2012 is not expected , and don't forget we are at 80kph in pit lane this year loosing approx 2 secs more in pit-stops. I expect plain jane 1 stop for everybody with tyre preservation the key in the race.

[markn93]

https://twitter.com/Pat_f1_/status/475648383945023489

Could someone please care to explain this?

[beelsebob]

https://twitter.com/Pat_f1_/status/475648383945023489

Could someone please care to explain this?

My bet would be that one or more teams breached the fuel flow limit in qualifying, and they're quietly reminding teams to stay within the limits.

[ringo]

I'm going to stick my neck out here: Rosberg is the fastest man in F1 over 1 lap in the dry.

The reason to why I specify dry weather, is because rain is a bit of his weakness.

Rosberg's beating Hamilton 10-9 in dry qualifying as teammates, but in the wet he is 6-1 down.

I also think that he is faster than Vettel and Ricciardo (two other worthy contenders).

Naahhh... He's the best student of the sport. I think he's a good learner, but left to his own devices to put in a hot lap i don't think he's naturally quicker. He has been using an iterative process of hamilton's data to pin point where he's slower.
If he sees where hamilton brakes later or turns the car in a certain way, then he's going to throw caution to the wind and copy it. That's what we are witnessing. If he is to repeat that many times with changes in car weight and tyre conditions i don't think he's going to pull it off. So i wouldn't put it down to natural speed. His advantage is in his analytical skills.
And this is why he can't go much faster than Hamilton when he does outqualify him.
He knows the bench mark, but he doesn't know how to go beyond that. So we will see a few of these hundreths Q3 everytime he beats Lewis.
Saying that, he got pole by a few hundreths, and that's with a Hamilton Error. Hamilton error free beats Rosberg by 2 to 5 tenths.
So until you have a situation where both put in their best laps then maybe you have an argument.
Button himself has had some decent qualy sessions against Lewis, even when Lewis has made no apparent error. I'm yet to see that with Rosberg. He's fast no doubt, but not faster than Hamilton.