Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

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Pierce89 wrote: 2. Lewis never managed any side by side attacks like Nico pulled in the first and last stints in Bahrain. He definitely got close enough to at least show a speculative lunge or two.
You do realize that this is because he used an engine map he wasn't supposed to in the first instance, and was on the faster tire in the second right?
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dans79 wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: 2. Lewis never managed any side by side attacks like Nico pulled in the first and last stints in Bahrain. He definitely got close enough to at least show a speculative lunge or two.
You do realize that this is because he used an engine map he wasn't supposed to in the first instance, and was on the faster tire in the second right?
I was going to say...

Also, a few laps after being in a position to really start challenging, both cars had failures which kind of put a stop to that. There was still a long way to go in that race.
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Not for strange happenings, like DNF in Australia, Yellows in Monaco Q3 and DNF in Cananda, Hamilton would have 175 points to his name and Rosberg would have 126 points. But What if's don't win championships so I am just hoping for a reliable #44 Mercedes with no more Rosberg Shenanigans.
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Did they share data last season? If not, why make it different this season?

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Wow, thanks for that, have not seen it before. Hamilton is very strong in the hard braking zones, but holy mofo the speed Rosberg carried into the last chicane. Some mighty risk taking there. He basically made it all up there.

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WaikeCU wrote:Did they share data last season? If not, why make it different this season?
That's simple, this year it's ROS vs LH for the title.

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What kind of data sharing are we talking about? If we recall Spa 2012 (or was it 2011?) when Hamilton posted telemetry data, it showed both his and Buttons data overlayed. I would think sharing to this point is done at all teams - in order to maximize team performance.

However sharing brake-balance and other such information during the race... well... I guess it can work both ways, although I don't find it too okay if it's done right in the heat of a battle. Perhaps this is just a reflection of what the sport has become, with different engine-maps, different brake-balance settings, etc etc etc.
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WaikeCU wrote:Did they share data last season? If not, why make it different this season?
Of course they did. All f1 teams share data between the two cars. It would be stupid for the team to not use the data their systems created to maximise the performance of the whole team.

All this talk about Lewis sharing his data or not is moot, because it the team's data not Lewis's.
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MercedesAMGSpy wrote:
WaikeCU wrote:Did they share data last season? If not, why make it different this season?
That's simple, this year it's ROS vs LH for the title.
That's ridiculous. If they stopped sharing data that would hurt both cars and slow development. This whole idea of "not sharing data" is a load of unrealistic bs brought about purely from sour grapes.
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Phil wrote:What kind of data sharing are we talking about? If we recall Spa 2012 (or was it 2011?) when Hamilton posted telemetry data, it showed both his and Buttons data overlayed. I would think sharing to this point is done at all teams - in order to maximize team performance.

However sharing brake-balance and other such information during the race... well... I guess it can work both ways, although I don't find it too okay if it's done right in the heat of a battle. Perhaps this is just a reflection of what the sport has become, with different engine-maps, different brake-balance settings, etc etc etc.
He means setup data in addition to telemetry.
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Rosberg really risked it all on the last chicane and it payed off! I'm impressed. Didn't know Nico had it in him.
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n smikle wrote:
Rosberg really risked it all on the last chicane and it payed off! I'm impressed. Didn't know Nico had it in him.
It would have payed off in every case...if he would have ended in the wall, he would also have been on P1 ;)
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Thar's why it's good to have your banker lap in in the first run of q3. Less pressure.
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n smikle wrote:Not for strange happenings, like DNF in Australia, Yellows in Monaco Q3 and DNF in Cananda, Hamilton would have 175 points to his name and Rosberg would have 126 points. But What if's don't win championships so I am just hoping for a reliable #44 Mercedes with no more Rosberg Shenanigans.
a little less "fanboyism", please :wink:

Rosberg was faster in Q3 and the yellow flag was no guarantee of Lewis being able to beat Nico's first pole time, as Canada showed when Nico's first lap was already faster than anything Lewis did, including his second lap. Also, Lewis' S1 from his second attempt at Monaco's Q3 was almost a tenth slower than that of Nico's pole

It's also ridiculously fanboyistic to claim Hamilton would've won Australia and Canada. In Melbourne, Rosberg passed him on the start so Lewis would need to take that back(very difficult as the track doesn't allow easy overtaking). In Canada, Rosberg was carrying on at P1 until the team screwed his second pitstop.

All in all, on a dry track, Rosberg has been usually on par or faster than Lewis.