Schumacher ski accident, coma and recovery

[Powerslide]

He becomes 7 times world drivers champion, earns a lot from it, starts a family, good life but when he retired this happens. We could have seen him at Le Mans, he attended nearly all the race of champions for his fans. I really feel for his family and hope he recovers because his family needs him.

[prince]

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

[CHT]

I know its irrelevant for MS family but I just wondering for a treatment like what MS has gone through, how much will the hospital bill add up to?

[beelsebob]

Hooray! What wonderful news to wake up to (no pun intended)! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

At most $1,963 (that's the most you can ever be charged for Medical care in Switzerland). This is Europe we're talking about, not the US, where you just get a huge bill, and have to deal with it.

[Ennis]

Guys - read again. Sorry to repeat this in such blunt terms but I really don't want people to get their hopes up.

This is NOT good news. It's barely even news, other than the fact he's getting moved. But what news you can construe it as, certainly isn't good. He's been out of a coma for a while, this does not indicate that he's even showing signs of recovery.

[Sevach]

Biggest win of his life.


Just in time for Germany x Portugal too. =D>

[beelsebob]

Guys - read again. Sorry to repeat this in such blunt terms but I really don't want people to get their hopes up.

This is NOT good news. It's barely even news, other than the fact he's getting moved. But what news you can construe it as, certainly isn't good. He's been out of a coma for a while, this does not indicate that he's even showing signs of recovery.

Interesting version of doom you're peddling there. How does transitioning from not able to wake up, to awake not represent a sign of recovery?

Don't get me wrong - the fact that he's being kept away from the public eye still suggests that there's significant brain damage, and that he's got a long way to go still, but that doesn't change the fact that waking up from the coma is a big step.

[Manoah2u]

Guys - read again. Sorry to repeat this in such blunt terms but I really don't want people to get their hopes up.

This is NOT good news. It's barely even news, other than the fact he's getting moved. But what news you can construe it as, certainly isn't good. He's been out of a coma for a while, this does not indicate that he's even showing signs of recovery.

Interesting version of doom you're peddling there. How does transitioning from not able to wake up, to awake not represent a sign of recovery?

Don't get me wrong - the fact that he's being kept away from the public eye still suggests that there's significant brain damage, and that he's got a long way to go still, but that doesn't change the fact that waking up from the coma is a big step.

+2. incredible on the negativity here, makes me a bit sick to be honest.

This guy's been in coma for a long while, and now is able to respond to his environment and is stated to be out-of-coma.
He's transferring to another hospital/clinic for 'recovery'. Are you naysayers negatives actually capable to understand what that means? That means he CAN recover, both mentally and phisically. If not, if he were in a 'vegatitive state' then there would be no use to go there because there is zero possibilty for recovery.
Is general IQ so low or are keyboards too accesible for retards to type something?

And dont start on that Hartstein doc because that guy has been negative from day one with unfounded remarks adding spice to already existing media reports and covering it up with supposed 'doc knowledge'. While in fact, he's as clueless as any, and all of his reports untill now has proven just that. Just look up the history of this page and Hartstein's responds to the schumacher accident.
Let's imagine this guy is your local doc, and you have some disease, perhaps a bad one. And this negative doc starts telling you like he's been going about Schumacher. Would you keep him as your doc? Def not. It's laughable.

Seriously people, there could not be any better news about Schumacher since he went into a coma, and you guys are negative? For f*ck sake armchair specialists are too damn negative to make effort to be positive for a change.
sickening.

Anyway, glad for the Schumi family that there are IMPROVEMENTS in schumacher's condition, with positive prospects.

[Shakeman]

Guys - read again. Sorry to repeat this in such blunt terms but I really don't want people to get their hopes up.

This is NOT good news. It's barely even news, other than the fact he's getting moved. But what news you can construe it as, certainly isn't good. He's been out of a coma for a while, this does not indicate that he's even showing signs of recovery.

Interesting version of doom you're peddling there. How does transitioning from not able to wake up, to awake not represent a sign of recovery?

Don't get me wrong - the fact that he's being kept away from the public eye still suggests that there's significant brain damage, and that he's got a long way to go still, but that doesn't change the fact that waking up from the coma is a big step.

Because you haven't understood the language that has been used, being out of coma does not mean being awake. He is very likely still in a minimally conscious state or PVG both states are not coma but neither are awake in any sense.

The press release does not say he is awake only that he is out of coma which he has been for some time. It appears that the press release and the context free reporting by the media is having the desired effect that in the minds of fans Michael is on the road to recovery which is a very unlikely scenario.

People are not being negative but being objective as there appears no reason whatsoever for the jubilation because nothing has actually changed in his condition.

[Ennis]

Interesting version of doom you're peddling there. How does transitioning from not able to wake up, to awake not represent a sign of recovery?

Don't get me wrong - the fact that he's being kept away from the public eye still suggests that there's significant brain damage, and that he's got a long way to go still, but that doesn't change the fact that waking up from the coma is a big step.

Earlier post:

Long time lurker - signed up to help with some clarity from a doctor friend. This is of course all coming with the usual call outs that he isn't close to the case, doesn't know the patient, etc.

This release is not good news. They probably released the statement in this sense because it would be hard to avoid the news of him getting out of an ICU, as soon as you move him people will notice. This combined with the family most likely still clinging to hope and trying to be positive would make the statement what it was.

Part of his feedback was that they used the term "clinically awake". He says this is, unfortunately, a term for 'the lights are on, but no one is home'. Please don't get your hopes up. The fact he's being moved only means his life is at no immediate risk, not that there is any real improvements in his 'consciousness'.

He suspects he'll be tended for before eventually succumbing to infection/pneumonia. Miracles do happen, but they are very, very, very rare.

Coming out of a coma, which in medical terms was actually confirmed in April according to Gary Hartstein, is not new news. The only news here is he is being transferred away from an ICU which only means he's not at immediate risk of being medically dead. Remember you can be out a 'coma' but still very low on the Coma Scale - there is nothing to suggest Michael has escaped a very low point on the Coma Scale, or that he will. In fact you'd suggest that no mention of progress up this scale coupled with how rare miracles are implies that things are still looking grim.

[Phil]

I think it's a tad harsh to call anyone for being outright "negative". I would say that those that appear to be negative, rather call themselves critical or realist. We're all judging the same news here - the news that is going from website to website, some quoting from official reliable sources, others quoting quoted and adding their own 2 cents (which then will be quoted in other places as fact etc). Unfortunately this is largely due to the way things have been communicated so far, so it's hard to differentiate between factual and intepretation.

Sadly, if some are to be believed, the situation may not be as optimistic as the headline may seem. Either way, those being sick about the "negativity" - I'm sure no one here, either critic, realist, pessimist or optimistic wishes anything other than the very best for Michael Schumacher and his family...

[bhall]

I think any medical commentary on Schumacher's condition is bad commentary, because only those closest to him and those treating him actually know what's going on. Everything else is speculation, especially Gary Hartstein's (disgraceful) analysis.

It's simply impossible, not to mention irresponsible, to parse the broad, generalized statements made by Sabine Kehm and others to find legitimate medical information from which conclusions can be drawn and reported as "news." After all, there would be little need for lab tests, x-rays, MRIs, EKGs, or a whole host of other diagnostic tools, if language alone had the power to deliver an accurate prognosis.

Doc, I think I have cancer.

"Good enough for me. Do you prefer radiation or chemo?"

It's not that he's negative; he's just uninformed, yet he speaks from a position of authority anyway.

I'm not easily offended, but this guy...

[clipsy1H]

A lot of ppl said that Schu will never escape from coma but now he's fine. Now another chapter of his life began. He's a fighter and i know he will recover.

This news came out just few hours before Germany match at World Cup.

c'mon Michael !!!!!

[Morteza]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally! =D> =D> =D> I'm a happy man today. It took a long time to happen, but finally happened
I found this on Facebook:

[Constructr]

A lot of ppl said that Schu will never escape from coma but now he's fine. Now another chapter of his life began. He's a fighter and i know he will recover.

This news came out just few hours before Germany match at World Cup.

c'mon Michael !!!!!

I don't think I would say "he's fine".
I pray for him everyday and wish him and his family the best.

Keep Fighting Michael!!