Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

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Weird logic. All he had to do was to drive, not think, not block, just drive. That's what Rosberg did, where is this out-thinking part in all of this?

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Lewis is probably thinking of Donington 1993 right now. :D

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iotar__ wrote:Weird logic. All he had to do was to drive, not think, not block, just drive. That's what Rosberg did, where is this out-thinking part in all of this?
I'm not talking about working out problems. It just seems that he is not as focused as rosberg, simply because he may be undermining the competition.
This may sound like a joke to use this word, but rosberg is hungrier. Meaning Rosberg is giving 100% from australia.
Hamilton isn't giving 100% all the time. He is not driving like he wants to take full advantage of every second on the track in every session.
He's not looking on the big picture of bagging the points to make the season's end easier. Rosberg respects Lewis more as a threat than Lewis does rosberg and that is preventing him from maximising.
He's just riding of his speed and hoping that it can solve every problem.

Mark you, Hamilton will come to his senses by Hungary, but this is his problem over the years, he takes too long to wake up. It's like he forgets all that he's learned and each year he starts to learn all over again. I am of the mind he may beat rosberg on pure talent, but it's starting to look more difficult with the way how Nico is maximizing every inch and milisecond.
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CHT wrote:Big mistake by Lewis for aborting the final run.
His sector 1 was pretty awful




Rosberg had some complaints about Hamilton going too slow on the outlap.

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Sevach wrote:
CHT wrote:Big mistake by Lewis for aborting the final run.
His sector 1 was pretty awful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i_FSAyrSfY


Rosberg had some complaints about Hamilton going too slow on the outlap.
BUT he had track position over Rosberg so would have been faster regardless. He wouldn't have got pole, but he could have been ahead of his championship rival.

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ringo wrote:
iotar__ wrote:Weird logic. All he had to do was to drive, not think, not block, just drive. That's what Rosberg did, where is this out-thinking part in all of this?
I'm not talking about working out problems. It just seems that he is not as focused as rosberg, simply because he may be undermining the competition.
This may sound like a joke to use this word, but rosberg is hungrier. Meaning Rosberg is giving 100% from australia.
Hamilton isn't giving 100% all the time. He is not driving like he wants to take full advantage of every second on the track in every session.
He's not looking on the big picture of bagging the points to make the season's end easier. Rosberg respects Lewis more as a threat than Lewis does rosberg and that is preventing him from maximising.
He's just riding of his speed and hoping that it can solve every problem.

Mark you, Hamilton will come to his senses by Hungary, but this is his problem over the years, he takes too long to wake up. It's like he forgets all that he's learned and each year he starts to learn all over again. I am of the mind he may beat rosberg on pure talent, but it's starting to look more difficult with the way how Nico is maximizing every inch and milisecond.
I think Nico does realise he is closing in on his first Chance to win the Championship and he did realise that it is more important to always score than it is to always beat your temammate .be it fre practise or every lap...
Lewis had his difficulties to Keep Button behind him already now ist the same with Rosberg who is a bit less sharp then him over a single lap maybe .

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Reiterates it all. Only Hamilton can beat Hamilton. He is his own worst enemy.
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SectorOne wrote:he's shown on multiple occasions he´s got the mindset of an infant.
Irony meters across the planet overheat and start to burn...

Meanwhile Rosberg takes pole. Wasn't that supposed to be Hamilton's thing, the quick lap?

Rosberg has an interesting pole/win ratio compared to Hamilton. Good to see my theory being sustained by evidence.
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SidSidney wrote:
SectorOne wrote:he's shown on multiple occasions he´s got the mindset of an infant.
Irony meters across the planet overheat and start to burn...

Meanwhile Rosberg takes pole. Wasn't that supposed to be Hamilton's thing, the quick lap?

Rosberg has an interesting pole/win ratio compared to Hamilton. Good to see my theory being sustained by evidence.
But don't you know, every time Rosberg beats Hamilton, it's due to a mistake, a conspiracy or the stars aligning against him, whereas if Hamilton beats Rosberg, it's due to his superior talent.

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thomin wrote:But don't you know, every time Rosberg beats Hamilton, it's due to a mistake, a conspiracy or the stars aligning against him, whereas if Hamilton beats Rosberg, it's due to his superior talent.
It is a tiny bit surprising that someone so naturally talented and all-round amazing so often has the lucky leprechaun sprinkling sparkly moonshine winner stardust over his team mate. There's just no explaining it, I guess.
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marcush. wrote: I think Nico does realise he is closing in on his first Chance to win the Championship and he did realise that it is more important to always score than it is to always beat your temammate
Exactly. There are no points for pole positions. The drivers who really succeed generally realize this quite early on, and you can see their "moment of clarity", as their thinking matures from the banzai lap merchant, directly in the ratios.
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ringo wrote: The guy is too slow in the brain. He's not stupid, but when it comes to mental preparation and tactics rosberg has the edge.
It's even more painful because he clearly has the pace on rosberg, but he is not thinking out the qualifying sessions.
oh, that's not clear at all. That's the "big fan" side of you thinking/believing in it.

It might be true or not. This sport is tricky to determine such things. Is Ricciardo really better than Vettel or the 4th time champion will dominate him at some point in the future?!

Is Kimi this much slower than Alonso? Some will think so, others not. It's always difficult to claim something to be "clear" within car racing.

Today Lewis is being called an "idiot/stupid" ant etc by some people. Tomorrow, if he wins it convincely beating Nico, some of this people will say he's the best driver ever and etc.

This was a crazy session and they had to make calls/decisions with very little time to think(or rethink). Lewis should have thought: "Well, I think it's not possible to improve as the track seems even wetter now but, just as a precaution, I will give another try. After all, it's free of costs". He didn't and I won't make definite claims about the guy from that.

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Artur Craft wrote:
ringo wrote: The guy is too slow in the brain. He's not stupid, but when it comes to mental preparation and tactics rosberg has the edge.
It's even more painful because he clearly has the pace on rosberg, but he is not thinking out the qualifying sessions.
oh, that's not clear at all. That's the "big fan" side of you thinking/believing in it.
Yes. Just look at today:
- Rosberg was faster in Q1.
- Hamilton was faster in Q2 because he was half a lap behind Rosberg and could set his time later with tires that were half a lap newer. He ran wide in the first sector in the second timed lap and did a slow lap.
- Rosberg was MUCH faster in the first sector on his pole lap. Even if Hamilton would have finishes his lap, Rosberg just had to maintain the gap behind him to get pole, because he closed the gap so much in the first two corners.

Nothing is clear in the fight between them.
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People will prob disagree with me, but i think the team put it in his head about moving over. Do you really thing he would of if they didn't?

Lets face facts, they told him on his outlap if you can't do it move over. During sector 2 he looked down (and like everyone else) would of seen +1.5 to 2 secs. So he moved over as instructed.

Its his mistake 100% purely because he wasn't selfish. His gotta just look after number 1 now and forget the rest.

100% he would not of moved over if it hadn't been put in his head, but its his fault for doing it

The thing i find hard to swallow is the fact the team say they will let them fight and they give those instructions....

edit: lets be honest, if he didn't move over and didn't improve and nor did rosberg he would of been slated (from his team as well) for not moving over....