Engine Usage

[beelsebob]

We're getting to the point where engine usage is important and will start causing penalties, so lets have a list:

Here are the drivers in order from most trouble to least. RedBull appear to have done a great job of managing Vettel's situation, he's no longer leading the failure list by a long way. Given their Renault engines, Caterham are doing an impressive job of keeping their engines going.

Driver        | ICE | Turbo | MGU-K | MGU-H | Battery | Electronics | Total
01 Vettel     |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           4 |    21
13 Maldonado  |   4 |     4 |     4 |     4 |       2 |           3 |    21
04 Chilton    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    19
07 Räikkönen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     4 |       3 |           3 |    19
17 Bianchi    |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           2 |    19
26 Kvyat      |   4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    19
06 Rosberg    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
14 Alonso     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
21 Gutierrez  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
44 Hamilton   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
99 Sutil      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
19 Massa      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           3 |    17
03 Ricciardo  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
08 Grosjean   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
11 Perez      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
20 Magnussen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
22 Button     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
25 Vergne     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
27 Hülkenberg |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
77 Bottas     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
10 Kobayashi  |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       3 |           4 |    15
09 Ericsson   |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    13

[Waywardism]

Caterham are probably running their engines much more conservatively since they're way out back and not fighting anyone.

By the way does a 4 indicate that they are on their 4th or that they've made 4 changes?

[beelsebob]

Caterham are probably running their engines much more conservatively since they're way out back and not fighting anyone.

By the way does a 4 indicate that they are on their 4th or that they've made 4 changes?

It indicates that they're on their 4th. Everyone has at least one change of each part remaining.

Of note also, you can go back to parts that you used earlier in the season, so just because you've "used" 3 ICEs, doesn't mean that you necessarily are in bad shape. It could simply be that you stuck a new engine in for Canada/Austria because you wanted peak power.

[MOWOG]

Good thread. =D> This stuff is going to get critically important after the break as we get into the back end of the season.

[XRayF1]

We're getting to the point where engine usage is important and will start causing penalties, so lets have a list:

Here are the drivers in order from most trouble to least. RedBull appear to have done a great job of managing Vettel's situation, he's no longer leading the failure list by a long way. Given their Renault engines, Caterham are doing an impressive job of keeping their engines going.

Driver        | ICE | Turbo | MGU-K | MGU-H | Battery | Electronics | Total
01 Vettel     |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           4 |    21
13 Maldonado  |   4 |     4 |     4 |     4 |       2 |           3 |    21
04 Chilton    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    19
07 Räikkönen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     4 |       3 |           3 |    19
17 Bianchi    |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           2 |    19
26 Kvyat      |   4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    19
06 Rosberg    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
14 Alonso     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
21 Gutierrez  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
44 Hamilton   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
99 Sutil      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
19 Massa      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           3 |    17
03 Ricciardo  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
08 Grosjean   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
11 Perez      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
20 Magnussen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
22 Button     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
25 Vergne     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
27 Hülkenberg |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
77 Bottas     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
10 Kobayashi  |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       3 |           4 |    15
09 Ericsson   |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    13

Interesting stuff.
Where did you find it?

Re the table ... I wonder about the logic of the teams behind it, though. And not because I think they do not have one, but because I am not able to follow the pattern.
I mean, we are just at 50% of this year' racing, with another 10 races to go - and in general they are already at their 3 complete power pack. Even the renowned Mercs are at their 3rd unit.

How are they managing the individual engine parts?
How will they be reused (except for FPs)?
Or are all of them accepting a grid penalty for the last 2-3 races, if they mantain this sort of pattern?

[WaikeCU]

Odd to see Vergne there down the list. How many times has he retired already this season?

[outsid3r]

I think there is a mistake in Chilton's record?

[SectorOne]

Odd to see Vergne there down the list. How many times has he retired already this season?

5 out of 9 times. And all except one he´s taken points in so it´s definitely hurting SRT as a whole.
And Kvyat 3 out of 9 times also hovering around the 9th, 10th spot.

It has been more unreliable then the Lotus so far which is crazy but hopefully all the niggly little things are solved.

[WaikeCU]

Amazed with Williams though. They have the best fuel mileage and also one of the best topspeed if not THE best. They generally have a great package.

[astracrazy]

Don't miss read it to wrongly think that if a driver is on number 4 it means they have had 3 failures and he is currently using number 4.

If we keep it up to date race by race we will get a better picture i.e Vettel has a failure after a race then he uses a new turbo in the next then its likely that was a failure.

[Gaz.]

Thanks for putting it together beelsebob

On the chart Renault teams are: 1st, 2nd, 6th, 13th, 14th, 18th, 21st & 22nd:
Ferrari are: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th & 11th.
Mercedes are: 7th, 10th, 12th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 19th & 20th.

Ferrari are all in the top half of the table where lower is better. Although Renault occupy the top two spots they also occupy the two lowest indicating a fair spread of reliability & usage while Mercedes have 6 of their 8 cars in the lower half of the table.

Driver        | ICE | Turbo | MGU-K | MGU-H | Battery | Electronics | Total
01 Vettel     |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           4 |    21
13 Maldonado  |   4 |     4 |     4 |     4 |       2 |           3 |    21
04 Chilton    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    19
07 Räikkönen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     4 |       3 |           3 |    19
17 Bianchi    |   4 |     4 |     3 |     4 |       2 |           2 |    19
26 Kvyat      |   4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    19
06 Rosberg    |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
14 Alonso     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
21 Gutierrez  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
44 Hamilton   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
99 Sutil      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       3 |           3 |    18
19 Massa      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           3 |    17
03 Ricciardo  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
08 Grosjean   |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
11 Perez      |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
20 Magnussen  |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
22 Button     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
25 Vergne     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    16
27 Hülkenberg |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
77 Bottas     |   3 |     3 |     3 |     3 |       2 |           2 |    16
10 Kobayashi  |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       3 |           4 |    15
09 Ericsson   |   2 |     2 |     2 |     2 |       2 |           3 |    13

[mikeerfol]

Thanks for putting it together beelsebob

On the chart Renault teams are: 1st, 2nd, 6th, 13th, 14th, 18th, 21st & 22nd:
Ferrari are: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th & 11th.
Mercedes are: 7th, 10th, 12th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 19th & 20th.

Ferrari are all in the top half of the table where lower is better. Although Renault occupy the top two spots they also occupy the two lowest indicating a fair spread of reliability & usage while Mercedes have 6 of their 8 cars in the lower half of the table.

And the weird thing is the 2 who are in the top half are the factory team drivers!

[beelsebob]

Thanks for putting it together beelsebob

On the chart Renault teams are: 1st, 2nd, 6th, 13th, 14th, 18th, 21st & 22nd:
Ferrari are: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th & 11th.
Mercedes are: 7th, 10th, 12th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 19th & 20th.

Ferrari are all in the top half of the table where lower is better. Although Renault occupy the top two spots they also occupy the two lowest indicating a fair spread of reliability & usage while Mercedes have 6 of their 8 cars in the lower half of the table.

And the weird thing is the 2 who are in the top half are the factory team drivers!

I don't think being in the top half is necessarily a bad thing at this point. If you have used 3 of each part, that's probably okay in most cases - it mostly indicates that you've used 2 of them mostly fully, and a 3rd one partly. Half way through the season that's exactly where you'd expect to be.

It may well be that the non-factory Merc teams are waiting for the moment when their aero package comes good to stick their new engines in, while the factory team is sticking exactly to the plan for when to change them out.

[NTS]

I don't think being in the top half is necessarily a bad thing at this point. If you have used 3 of each part, that's probably okay in most cases - it mostly indicates that you've used 2 of them mostly fully, and a 3rd one partly. Half way through the season that's exactly where you'd expect to be.

Or you have used two partially and switched to the 3rd one for more performance. Then the first two can be used again at the end of the season?

[Waywardism]

I don't suppose there's a list anywhere of parts failures?