
this is hypothetical isnt it? Have we forgotten Torro Rosso's one and only win in 2008?Shrieker wrote:I think Ferrari are making a huge mistake. Even if they have a championship capable car (doubtful), they won't have the driver to pull it off. With a hypothetical Seb/Kimi pairing in 2014, they wouldn't have scored a single podium. I just don't see how the pecking order can drastically change for 2015 with the engine freeze in effect. Ferrari will be in even more of a turmoil next season...
That was an entirely different formula and a one off weekend for Torro Rosso. I just can't see any relevance to the current regulations and the situations the drivers are in right now. As mikeerfol has pointed out, drivers like Button, Kimi and Vettel have had a lot of difficulty adapting to the new formula and there is even word Button isn't being offered a contract renewal by McLaren...CHT wrote:
this is hypothetical isnt it? Have we forgotten Torro Rosso's one and only win in 2008?
Engines aren't frozen between seasons as of now, 48% of the engine can be changed to next season.Shrieker wrote:I think Ferrari are making a huge mistake. Even if they have a championship capable car (doubtful), they won't have the driver to pull it off. With a hypothetical Seb/Kimi pairing in 2014, they wouldn't have scored a single podium. I just don't see how the pecking order can drastically change for 2015 with the engine freeze in effect. Ferrari will be in even more of a turmoil next season...
does he? I was always under the impression Alonsos style was a very decisive turn in relying on the rear nnot steppping out uncontrollable and living with the understeer his abrupt initial steering input is causing .One of the reasons (in my view) why the pullrod thing at Ferrari did not hurt him too much.basti313 wrote:Maybe because they know where they are going with their new car. It is still under discussion if and how the Alonso-style car (who wants a loose rear ed) hampered Ferrari.
Ron Dennis wants Button out. That has been evident from the start of the season.Shrieker wrote:That was an entirely different formula and a one off weekend for Torro Rosso. I just can't see any relevance to the current regulations and the situations the drivers are in right now. As mikeerfol has pointed out, drivers like Button, Kimi and Vettel have had a lot of difficulty adapting to the new formula and there is even word Button isn't being offered a contract renewal by McLaren...CHT wrote:
this is hypothetical isnt it? Have we forgotten Torro Rosso's one and only win in 2008?
If Ferrari are offering good money, they've done so for the wrong Red Bull driver. Why not poach Ricciardo ? Are they just shopping for the name who's got 4 titles to his name now... They're probably going to say he's well proven himself with 4 titles but to me he's just proved his inability to adapt to the new formula, especially if you judge by his team mate's performances.
Wow i honestly didn't know that. 48 percent, eh ? Seems to me like you just made that upSevach wrote:
Engines aren't frozen between seasons as of now, 48% of the engine can be changed to next season.
The "unfreeze movement" is about in season development.
Yup I also think that could be what is hampering his teammates for a while nowbasti313 wrote:Maybe because they know where they are going with their new car. It is still under discussion if and how the Alonso-style car (who wants a loose rear ed) hampered Ferrari.