Renault doesn't. Not to the same degree. That doesn't make it better though, as they're left far behind by the time they start to regain with top end. Indication of weaker K output, but more consistent. Probably a result of them being unable to achieve higher outputs reliably, or at all. And even that one can not be compared apples to apples as on both power heavy circuits RB ran with no wings to speak of.turbof1 wrote: That's called allocation. The mgu-k is only to have an output of 4MJ; you need to spread that in an optimized way. I presume at 330kph the k power will be offset by the drag. I'm pretty sure Renault and Ferrari do the same thing.
That's assuming ICE is more or less equal in performance.
Ferrari is a sh1tbox in another direction. It's peak power can probably match merc, but can only do so for a very short straight before running out of K or something. Their normal low end accel is on par with renault at full pelt, while in "K1"as they call it, they're pretty much in the same league as merc. That's what I gathered from a whole season worth of onboards.
We've been over this.turbof1 wrote: I believe that there's a deficit, I don't believe the deficit is 75bhp which translated in over a second a lap.
In 2013 in spa on kemmel full kers without DRS equalled to ~10kmh benefit. Which is pretty much the difference we've had this year on most occasions between merc and RB in speed traps (Yes, RB only, don't start with that TR is quicker BS).
Looked like ric ran the same power setting all the time in his monza onboard. Which was about the same speed as merc and williams on charging laps. With half the wing (!). Why do people forget or try to make it irrelevant all the time?turbof1 wrote: However for overtaking you probably want to have the extra power above the normal cut off point. Is it possible to reach 362kph?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say? In quali everyone runs max power, and the deficit is loud and clear. Harvesting is another problem, because not only do you not have the maximum power merc has, but for a portion of the time you've got even less than that.turbof1 wrote: Horner is incorrect to say they have 75bhp deficit, since the biggest issue is the harvesting. Going from a 750bhp PU to a 825bhp PU will not change a thing if they don't increase harvesting efficiency.
4MJ number is myth and irrelevant number. It literally doesn't make any difference.