Negativity and Haterism trend....

[turbof1]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

He didn't crush him. Hamilton did defeat him mostly in one to one battles, but Nico proved to be the better qualifier. And Hamilton didn't just blast past Nico, he had to often force Nico into a mistake.

And no battles? You must be joking. Forgot Hungary? Spain? Monaco? Japan? And yes I'm intentionally ignoring the most obvious one, simply because I don't have to refrain to it. There always was suspense.

Last year, Vettel was better then Webber in both qualy and race. That's what I call crushing the opponent.

I also fully disagree that both drivers need to be former world champions to make a legendary season. Just look at Ferrari, 3 championships combined in their drivers yet we hardly have seen any signs of legendary stuff there this year. Nico is a very good driver, if he gets his act together on par wih Hamilton. Efforts on the track is what counts, not what your title is.

May I also add that 1989, I think a season you consider as legendary, mclaren had very nearly double the points the second constructor had, 141 to 77. Competition between teams isn't absolutely needed; you need competition between drivers, whether they drive in the same car or not. We had competition between Rosberg and Hamilton. Perhaps a bit aided by more bad luck on Hamilton's side, yes, but to be honest I don't mind since Rosberg was close enough and did have his fair share of the bad luck too.

[iotar__]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

How is this kind of garbage (scientific name) not immediately deleted but argued instead?

[iotar__]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

He didn't crush him. Hamilton did defeat him mostly in one to one battles, but Nico proved to be the better qualifier. And Hamilton didn't just blast past Nico, he had to often force Nico into a mistake.

Every race and qualifying was one to one battle between Merc drivers unless bad strategy on purpose, dirty driving was involved (Bahrain and Barcelona) or chance occurrences happened (that includes both safety car timing and breaks failure). So "mostly" without definition, numbers and examples is worthless.

And for the 1000th time , why would performance in races with "car problems" be excluded from driver comparison? Like for example Canada where they both had identical problems but handled it differently.

[WaikeCU]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

He didn't crush him. Hamilton did defeat him mostly in one to one battles, but Nico proved to be the better qualifier. And Hamilton didn't just blast past Nico, he had to often force Nico into a mistake.

And no battles? You must be joking. Forgot Hungary? Spain? Monaco? Japan? And yes I'm intentionally ignoring the most obvious one, simply because I don't have to refrain to it. There always was suspense.

Last year, Vettel was better then Webber in both qualy and race. That's what I call crushing the opponent.

I also fully disagree that both drivers need to be former world champions to make a legendary season. Just look at Ferrari, 3 championships combined in their drivers yet we hardly have seen any signs of legendary stuff there this year. Nico is a very good driver, if he gets his act together on par wih Hamilton. Efforts on the track is what counts, not what your title is.

May I also add that 1989, I think a season you consider as legendary, mclaren had very nearly double the points the second constructor had, 141 to 77. Competition between teams isn't absolutely needed; you need competition between drivers, whether they drive in the same car or not. We had competition between Rosberg and Hamilton. Perhaps a bit aided by more bad luck on Hamilton's side, yes, but to be honest I don't mind since Rosberg was close enough and did have his fair share of the bad luck too.

Amen to that. You don't rewrite history every season. 2014 has been a truly special year. Mercedes have excelled themselves every season. Lauda really was right. He really knew what potential the team had and convincing Lewis to sign for Mercedes was just a piece of the puzzle that resulted in this success. It's a legendary season, because records have been broken, history haven been rewritten. Team has dominated the entire grid, unbearable tension in an interteam battle. Emotional racewins, controversial actions, paddock struck by Bianchi's and De Cesaris' tragedy, etc.

[dans79]

And the hybrid one is new technology wich means there´s also an engineering battle. What´s the problem?

I think this sums up this issue.

[Andres125sx]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

He didn't crush him.

Ok I did exagerate, agree, and also agree Nico performed surprisingly well on qualifying beating the best on saturdays for most people more often than anyone would have expected.

But on sundays Lewis beated Nico consistently. Well, he´s Hamilton, you know he will never be as consistent as Alonso , but even with his problems (not refering to his car) he´s been much better than Rosberg


Maybe I was too confident with Lewis, but once the car problems dissapeared I didn´t have any doubt about the outcome

[Andres125sx]

WDC... only Hamilton car problems provided some excitement, but on track there was no battle at all, Lewis crushed Nico on every GP they both had their cars ok

How is this kind of garbage (scientific name) not immediately deleted but argued instead?

How is this kind of useless, ofensive and childish post (scientific name) not inmediately deleted?

[Andres125sx]

almost forgot it....

I also fully disagree that both drivers need to be former world champions to make a legendary season.

I never said that, but he was comparing this seasson´s Rosberg vs Hamilton with the legendary Senna vs Prost and IMHO that´s going way too far

[Andres125sx]

And the hybrid one is new technology wich means there´s also an engineering battle. What´s the problem?

I think this sums up this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbU4Cb4A4-o

Some people do prefer F1 using 7 year old engines, because that´s what V8s were, than new technology with new ideas providing some battle on the technical side too. The most surprising part is they´re F1Technical members

[J.A.W.]

Nah, A-125, I doubt it.. ..not bloody likely..
Sure like to see the unequivocal evidence..
.. that even one F1 V8 running in the final season.. ..was an actual 7 year old race veteran of the 1st..

[CBeck113]

And the hybrid one is new technology wich means there´s also an engineering battle. What´s the problem?

I think this sums up this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbU4Cb4A4-o

Some people do prefer F1 using 7 year old engines, because that´s what V8s were, than new technology with new ideas providing some battle on the technical side too. The most surprising part is they´re F1Technical members

The bigger issue is not the V6 hybitch vs V8, but the simple fact that there was no technical battle, because no one was allowed to improve their engines = no chance for a battle once the first shot was fired. We knew that Mercedes would run away with the title after the first race...exciting! The engine freeze is a crap idea which turned out to be a guarantee that Mercedes won, and next year will be the same, but with Honda a bit closer than Ferrari & Renault. I can hardly wait...not.

[turbof1]

almost forgot it....

I also fully disagree that both drivers need to be former world champions to make a legendary season.

I never said that, but he was comparing this seasson´s Rosberg vs Hamilton with the legendary Senna vs Prost and IMHO that´s going way too far

It's quite contradictive there . What makes Senna and Prost so legendary? One word: time. A legend grows the older it gets. I think that's the issue right here. What we have now is fresh, new, still needs to age.

[Andres125sx]

The bigger issue is not the V6 hybitch vs V8, but the simple fact that there was no technical battle, because no one was allowed to improve their engines = no chance for a battle once the first shot was fired. We knew that Mercedes would run away with the title after the first race...exciting! The engine freeze is a crap idea which turned out to be a guarantee that Mercedes won, and next year will be the same, but with Honda a bit closer than Ferrari & Renault. I can hardly wait...not.

Agree on that, but at least there was a challenge before the begining of the seasson wich is more than what we had past seassons

I´m also looking forward to see what happens with Honda

It's quite contradictive there . What makes Senna and Prost so legendary? One word: time. A legend grows the older it gets. I think that's the issue right here. What we have now is fresh, new, still needs to age.

I don´t think its contradictive, Senna vs Prost is a legend also because of time, agree, but it was impressive even on those seassons, much more than what Rosberg vs Hamilton have been this seasson I think

[turbof1]

I personally think it's around the same over one year. The rivalry between Senna and Prost of course lasted several years. Let's see how that goes with Hamilton and Rosberg. But I think that started as good as how the rivalry between Prost and Senna started.

Time will tell. I don't think we really disagree, just looking at it from different angles. Senna and Prost was a legendary period of years, of course that's more impression then one single year. But I do like the prospects of that year turning into a period.

Also, the way it ended this year is both a bit anti-climatic and very epic. Rosberg refusing to give up and insisting on ending the race, that was biblical. That was emotion. That was a moving end.

[WaikeCU]

I personally think it's around the same over one year. The rivalry between Senna and Prost of course lasted several years. Let's see how that goes with Hamilton and Rosberg. But I think that started as good as how the rivalry between Prost and Senna started.

Time will tell.

As long Mercedes stay dominant, Hamilton and Rosberg will go at each other yet again. When rivals Ferrari and Red Bull match their pace, then it will become interesting, because I believe if Hamilton is faster than Rosberg, then the team will probably be more biased towards Hamilton since they have a championship to defend.