Viso's heavy crash in GP2

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Militia Est Vita wrote:
manchild wrote:I'd ban for life those two morons on p1&2.
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...and the third moron who ran over his own mechanic at the pitstop too! =D>
It has to be considered that Magny Cours' pit lane is very narrow originaly. Furthermore, during a GP2 Race, teams have to stay 1 meter clear of F1 team's stand, which means actually 2 meters, as F1 teams have some material left outside (nosecones).
In the end it means the pit lane for GP2 is extremely tight! If you look carfully, it doesn't seem that Lapierre really dive too deep in the pit area, neither the mechanic being too much forward, it just shows the aberation of giving the teams so little a place to pit... Just look how close the front wheels are from the mechanic when the accident doesn't happen, it's a tight game.

If you watched the race, you probably spoted other evidences of the irrational lack of place, with drivers pitting in the wrong stand (I swear it's true!) because of no visibility, honnestly the general confusion of the pit lane was a real shame to see, absolutely anti-professional organisation.

About the morronic start of Glock and Zuber, a ban for life is harsh, but it's true that's probably the worst thing team mates can do in racing, and the way it was done is incredibly ridiculous. GP2 drivers are there to impress and hope to be remarked by the F1 paddock, those two got it wrong really...

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Another really daft GP2 race, its very competitive and exciting but I've heard of several occasions where the FIA have sat all the drivers down in the briefing and tried for hours to knock into their skulls that they have to drive carefully, with very little result. Perhaps any driver who makes contact with another should be given detention and made to write lines 'I will try to drive safer and not crash.'

Thanfully Viso is OK
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Terrible accident, he's a bloody lucky guy if his head would've touched that barrier, he would have broken his neck or even worse; ended up with no neck at all!

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kurtiejjj wrote:...or even worse; ended up with no neck at all!
Already happened in F1 long time ago.

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manchild wrote:
kurtiejjj wrote:...or even worse; ended up with no neck at all!
Already happened in F1 long time ago.
Do you mean the Tom Pryce accident?

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Ciro Pabón wrote: Seeing the car flying convinces me even more that something must be done about this characteristic of flat floored cars.
I looked at this closely given our recent conversations :)

I didn't think it flew too unstably - you could see it was always going to come back to Earth the right way up - but the flying did cause it to clear the wall.

GP2 cars have skirts and tunnels already unlike flat bottomed f1 cars. Perhaps instead of skirts it needs a radiused edge like current ACO sportscars.

But if you have open wheel cars touching there's always gonna be a bit of flying whether you like it or not!

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You could try to implement a device to keep the flight short but, in my opinion, the jump was due to wheel-to-wheel contact - like Kubica's at Montreal. Closed cars may have their issues with flying also, but they hardly lift off on contact with adversaries. A solution could be to close the wheels, but everybody would find that it would make formulas loose its character. In my opinion, the grounds for open-wheeled formula racing are completely outdated - open cars with exposed wheels were born for weight-reduction purposes, nowadays the focus in too much into aerodynamics for the reasons behind it to make sense.