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Honda motorsport boss Yasuhisa Arai has claimed that it is unfair the engine maker is receiving all criticism and has rebuked doubts that the Japanese firm could make enough of a step forward over the next winter to become competitive.
I do bear that in mind, but still, this used to be a top team. I don't expect them to beat the Mercs right away. But hoping to finish and if so hoping to beat Manor. I hoped the team had done better than that. I realise there's lot of room for improvement and maybe the car indeed has potential that they can unlock, but at the moment it is very dissapointing.Richard wrote:Bear in mind the PU now has roughly the same mileage as the Renault PU after their first test last year. They've got a long way to go if they follow the same rate of progress as Renault. It's going to be a long season for them.
They had the benefit, of other teams running the same engine, so the engine manufacture was still getting boat loads of data.Andres125sx wrote:True, very dissapointing, but think about Red Bull last season.... very little mileage on pre-season, looked like a disaster... but then they started the season with a podium (DSQ because of the fuel flow sensor problem) and managed to win 3 GPs
Redbull's problem were mainly heat related due to aggressive packaging which they had to change later. You have to take into account that Honda does not have the experience Renault had in Kers and engine.dans79 wrote:They had the benefit, of other teams running the same engine, so the engine manufacture was still getting boat loads of data.Andres125sx wrote:True, very dissapointing, but think about Red Bull last season.... very little mileage on pre-season, looked like a disaster... but then they started the season with a podium (DSQ because of the fuel flow sensor problem) and managed to win 3 GPs
I was trying to keep positive!dans79 wrote:They had the benefit, of other teams running the same engine, so the engine manufacture was still getting boat loads of data.Andres125sx wrote:True, very dissapointing, but think about Red Bull last season.... very little mileage on pre-season, looked like a disaster... but then they started the season with a podium (DSQ because of the fuel flow sensor problem) and managed to win 3 GPs
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So the red bulls were running below 100% to reduce heat rejection limit last year?Silent Storm wrote:Redbull's problem were mainly heat related due to aggressive packaging which they had to change later. You have to take into account that Honda does not have the experience Renault had in Kers and engine.
More like two seasons. With the limited tokens, I don't expect to see Honda in Q3. Next year, challenging midfield teams and maybe Red Bull - yeah, possibly. Unless, of course, Ron engages literally everyone in MTC and Honda to solve that. I can imagine the wave of disappointment that's mounting towards them. Just to remind everyone that it took Mercedes about 5 years and close to a $500 millions to get this one second advantage.Richard wrote:Bear in mind the PU now has roughly the same mileage as the Renault PU after their first test last year. They've got a long way to go if they follow the same rate of progress as Renault. It's going to be a long season for them.
And when asked about the time frame for recovery on the engine performance, he was more straightforward than any thing I have heard from Mclaren/Honda so far, simply replying: I don't think that it will happen this year.
