Alonso's Crash

[nzjrs]

What are we all talking about now? What is the point of this continued blather?

What would be enough for the speculation to stop?

The hot air harvested from this thread would add another 1.6s per lap to the McLaren.

[timbo]

The thing is we don't KNOW. And that statement doesn't change ANYTHING about it. So no.

While technically putting a new sensor does not contradict what's been said here http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118034
that along with Button's interview strongly implied that the car was ok. And it likely was within the parameters they could see. But it is very surprising there are steering related parameters they didn't measure.

[Thunder]

Finally.... =D> =D> =D>
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/580959614054871040 https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/ ... 7654686720

[f1universe]

His explanation is more convincing than the car was fine and maybe it was the wind. McLaren explanation clash with his explanation, not only on the mechanical side but also the medical side. I hope they don't start a battle and focus on the car.

[SectorOne]

Alonso basically said the steering locked to the right and he hit the wall. Friday PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGT6fJVbqHo

Part 2, "nono even a hurricane won´t move the car at that speed".

edit: he also shot down the medical issue theory pretty good saying if he blacked out the car would travel to the outside of the corner since in F1 you still need to apply force to the steering wheel (something that would be needed to hit the inside wall)

[Thunder]

So there was a Problem with the Steering which isn't visible on the Data (Alonso and Macca said that). That's why they are now adding a Sensor and also revise a few Changes to the steering specifically made for Fernando.

Basically if McLaren, but first and foremost Ron Dennis, would have just said "we don't know yet but we will let you know when we do" we would have had all the wild speculations anyway but it would have been less amateurish. They didn't lie but speculated themselves in public, that wasn't good.

What i don't get is why apparently Macca and Alonso didn't even talk about the Crash until he was at Woking this Week.

[xDama]

Basically if McLaren, but first and foremost Ron Dennis, would have just said "we don't know yet but we will let you know when we do" we would have had all the wild speculations anyway but it would have been less amateurish. They didn't lie but speculated themselves in public, that wasn't good.

Less 'amateurish'? I highly doubt it. Some people in this thread are downright insane.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3235 ... ing-crash/

So, case almost closed I guess?

[Thunder]

I meant less amateurish from McLaren if that wasn't clear, sorry.
I am well aware that you can't stop the Internet.

But i still think if McLaren and Alonso would have had a Phone conference say a week after the Accident they could have avoided a good part of all that speculation.

And yes, for me it's case closed. Let's go racing.

[Richard]

I have to say that I admire Alsonso's maturity and the clarity in the way he analyses and describes what happened and why.

He says he had requested a different set up on the steering rack and he'll revert back to the standard Mclaren arrangement.

[iotar__]

That didn't clear up anything, on the contrary mysterious lock up and another stage of back and forth theory with memory loss. I'm surprised Alonso has zero concerns, he should have, another lock up that won't be on telemetry and he goes straight into a wall or rather sideways.

I think Alonso gave them a nasty surprise by not going fast enough to blame the driver (like Bianchi). Where is Todt? Where is Ecclestone? Where is Whiting? Are they too busy allowing assembled last minute, tin pot team to race with no safety concerns?

[Tim.Wright]

That didn't clear up anything, on the contrary mysterious lock up and another stage of back and forth theory with memory loss. I'm surprised Alonso has zero concerns, he should have, another lock up that won't be on telemetry and he goes straight into a wall or rather sideways.

I think Alonso gave them a nasty surprise by not going fast enough to blame the driver (like Bianchi). Where is Todt? Where is Ecclestone? Where is Whiting? Are they too busy allowing assembled last minute, tin pot team to race with no safety concerns?

It was pretty clearly explained that he has changed steering racks now and another sensor (I'm guessing another torque sensor on the steering column) has been added to catch any re-occurrence.

[Andres125sx]

edit: he also shot down the medical issue theory pretty good saying if he blacked out the car would travel to the outside of the corner since in F1 you still need to apply force to the steering wheel (something that would be needed to hit the inside wall)

True, didn´t realice before but that´s obvious, a black out is not posible

What a relief, I was concerned about that posibility

[Andres125sx]

Part 2, "nono even a hurricane won´t move the car at that speed".

Alonso fan here, but this proves drivers opinion shouldn´t be considered unquestionable. He probably is used to normal winds wich do not affect the car, but if you´re moving at 200km/h and a wind gust from the tail suddenly decreases the airspeed to 100km/h with the consequent drop in downforce in the middle of a fast corner..... sorry Nano but that will send you to the gravel on best case scenario

Difficult scenario as it need 3 different circumstances to happen at the same time (strong wind gust, from backward and on a fast corner) but not imposible, that´s how accidents happen

[JimClarkFan]

I have to say that I admire Alsonso's maturity and the clarity in the way he analyses and describes what happened and why.

He says he had requested a different set up on the steering rack and he'll revert back to the standard Mclaren arrangement.

I really hope this is the end of it.

I hope there are no ''afterwards'' and Mclaren can put the conflicting public views to bed fast.

[turbof1]

Does show however that releasing telemetry would not have helped the slightest since there was not a sensor in the steering wheel. We would have been debating back and forth without getting any wiser.

I don't know. A steering lock would certainly feel different then having your aero messed up by wind. The latter would still allow you to turn the steering wheel, so I'm inclined to believe Alonso and that it wasn't a gush of wind after all. But again, it stays speculating.

I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of this. It looks pointless to continue speculating since there's no data on the steering wheel. I doubt the FIA will be able to bring clarity in this.