Of course not, I'm sure even you really know that's a bit of a silly exaggeration of the situation. How the officials will decide how much of the McLaren was devised by Ferrari I don't know. Although I am a fan of Ferrari, I am first and foremost a fan of Formula One. I have the greatest respect for Ron Dennis. What he has personally achieved is in my opinion phenomenal... and although I do not agree with the selling of information in the fasion that has occured, let me just say that every team throughout every discipline and category operates outside of the rules in some way or another or ...for want of a better word cheats. EVERY TEAM!!midzt wrote: McMerc aren't exactly going to build a Ferrari next year that was arguably slower than their current car.
So nobody should get punished for breaking the rules because everyone does it anyway? ...Scuderia_Russ wrote:every team cheats.
One thing we all know is that the FIA cant keep up with the teams developments, not in slowing down the cars in a exciting and beneficial way, not even in tracking the changes to the cars. the FIA is just wholly ineffectual when it comes to that. You want the FIA to INCREASE checks and security measures...? you have more chance of max mosley taking early retirement, and ernie, well ernie just taking retirement...Saribro wrote:So nobody should get punished for breaking the rules because everyone does it anyway? ...Scuderia_Russ wrote:every team cheats.
If every team cheats, that just means security measures need to be improved, rulebreakers need to be consistently punished and the quality and amount of checks needs to be increased.
In any team or group there has to be trust between all participants, if there is no trust there is no point to being together and working as a whole. That applies to pretty much every case possible. And in this case, it backfired, unfortunetly. And now because of one man so many people across this planet are now being affected on different levels. The fault isn't lying solely on him either, it is just that he was the first one to take action at the beginning of this ordeal.DaveKillens wrote:You know, the best way for any team to protect it's secrets and intellectual property is to safeguard it themselves. If you're sloppy on security, then ... tough.
What I said is that every team, from Formula Ford to Touring Cars to Formula 1, will be breaking the rules in one form or other but they just do not get caught... but not every team has documents relating to their chief rivals car.Saribro wrote:So nobody should get punished for breaking the rules because everyone does it anyway? ...Scuderia_Russ wrote:every team cheats.
What would the effect have been if McLaren weren,t allowed to race? Think about it for a minute if it won't hurt too much. Think of the hundreds of jobs that would be lost, race team, test team, truckies, composites, designers, engineers, suppliers etc. Stopping them from racing would have been stupid. As things stand hey have been punished for breaking the rules and hundreds of people still keep their jobs. Ultimately it is Mike Coughlans fault that they were put at risk in the first place!!Venom wrote:
FIA said McLaren cheated, but still allows them to race this car, BUT makes points about future 2008 car.
