I think the dusk was at pre-seson testingPhil wrote:what if it's still dusk? ....
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Honda motorsport boss Yasuhisa Arai has claimed that it is unfair the engine maker is receiving all criticism and has rebuked doubts that the Japanese firm could make enough of a step forward over the next winter to become competitive.
I think the dusk was at pre-seson testingPhil wrote:what if it's still dusk? ....
i could not agree more.they did not behave like a top team.since start of the year all they said was bluff. consider redbull of last year.they were no where but acted like a top team and improved throughout the year. Mclaren i think they are caught in a whirlpool with no way out of it. to die hard optimists i would say write off 2016. magics dot happen in F1.they are left far behind but their ego is still intact.turbof1 wrote:Winter testing sets which planetary dusk you are going to run for the season. Mercedes for instance had no dusk, just a minor eclipse this weekend, while mclaren are by all means and purpose seeing dusk the last 3 years.
I'm sorry to say it, but mclaren is not a top team anymore. It's a midfielder slipping further and further back. If Button announces his retirement in Japan, I think I would applause for him for making the correct decision. It really has to hurt for a driver that the team he drove for all these years, has slipped from being a championship-competing team to being the second-last team.
diffuser wrote:max_speed wrote:http://gptoday.com/details/view/539471/ ... it_F18242/
Sad but i think its the right decision by button and Alonso should follow him.i do not think he is going to be a world champion again.i won't be surprised to see Manor challenging Mclaren with Mercedes engine in the back and before such a day arrives would be great for Alonso to retire. his gamble to Mclaren failed big time and with no option in sight would be great to depart with reputation as one of the greatest driver of all time. Unlucky world champions
Yeah, well Ferrari didn't think they could win 3 races this year! What people think and what happens are 2 different things.
Manor ? Really ...with the PU that Ferrari had last year, Fernado was anywhere from 5th to 15th. Manor Can NOT get out of Q3.
Although off to a poor start I don think it has failed yet.
That's the worst part of this year, the car has been so weak and unreliable we haven't been able to witness the Alonzo Magic.
Personally, I can only hope that Alonso follows his example, two painful to see two ex-WDC being humiliated like this.turbof1 wrote:Winter testing sets which planetary dusk you are going to run for the season. Mercedes for instance had no dusk, just a minor eclipse this weekend, while mclaren are by all means and purpose seeing dusk the last 3 years.
I'm sorry to say it, but mclaren is not a top team anymore. It's a midfielder slipping further and further back. If Button announces his retirement in Japan, I think I would applause for him for making the correct decision. It really has to hurt for a driver that the team he drove for all these years, has slipped from being a championship-competing team to being the second-last team.
Never because Alonso was not avail. If a Red Bull / Ferrari option opens for Fred, he'd be insane not to take it. Macca is looking at 2017 before they MAY be challenging for podiums. They have lost the ball.diffuser wrote:When was the last time RB went after a driver that wasn't a TR driver ?
I can foresee a split between McLaren, Honda and Alonso after this season, Honda is simply going nowhere and the freeze makes it impossible to recover. Possibly Ron Dennis is playing a waiting game for Honda to buy themselves out of the contract?McG wrote:As long as McLaren are with Honda they will take a decade or more and some change in philosophy at Honda to be a top team again. They will be lucky to win a race in the next decade. It was a romantic idea but I hope Ron has some better plans for engines for the near future so McLaren can at least be a midfield team again.
Poor Button. Alonso I couldn't give a crap about.
We still don't know the precise engine rules for 2017, right?WilliamsF1 wrote:Surprising that no political maneuvering is going on by McLaren, Ferrari and Renault to open up the regulations to allow for more engine parity.
Last year we had some movement on this front with tokens being used through the year, but the increase in tokens did not go through.
This year so far there has been no talk on the same.
Also I was hoping the fuel flow would be increased to 110 or 120 kg/hr
Horner says the same - although Horner does not know what he wantsHonda's Yasuhisa Arai says he wants to see a change in the regulations that would allow the struggling engine constructor make up ground on its main rivals.
